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my car wasn't starting of the first time either i took it and got the inject cleaned it works great now

I had my Bronco's injectors professionaly cleaned. Made a big difference. Sometimes it's better just to get new ones though. I don't know how much $ new ones are for the GP. They're less than $100 for the Bronco's V8.

Dont Move To Los Angeles!!!!

I was in the New England states in the fall of the year, and my rental Buick, with a 3800 engine, got 36 mpg. Whatever they're putting in the gas there would be OK by me. You want fooky gas + high prices, come to California.

Regards, Gary in Sandy Eggo

Hey Daverobs,
You never told us if your car is starting. You gotta keep all of us informed, it's the only way we will know if anything works. I recommended using two bottles of dry gas. You said you put one in. So????...

Hey Jvojr

One bottle of "heet" added and maybe it helped. I also filled my tank with 93 octane gas. I think I only had one (2 crank) session since? Tnanks for the advice. again, once running, the engine runs smooth and fine, no problems at all. I WILL keep the board informed if the problem comes back. jvojr....should I dump a bottle of injector cleaner in the gas tank too?......38,000 miles, or should I look at a total tune-up? I'm getting 28 miles/gallon on a v6 3.1 litre. Love my car!

Yo,maybe your fuel pressure regulator isn't holding pressure when your car sits overnight or for a period of time, letting it drain back in to the tank. Then when you go to start it, the pump has to pump fuel all the way to the injs. and then pressurize the system. Put a guage on the fuel system and see if you have a pressure loss. This is only a sugguestion, or to be a SMART ASS, try "DRY GAS". P'CHOP :rolleyes:

Injector cleaner is a scam. Doesn't really work once you get to the point you're at. You could try a couple of bottles on your next fill and then floor the shit out of it. Or, if that doesn't work, spring for a pro job. Costs about $60.00. You should be getting closer to 30 mpg with the 3.1, so fouled injectors sounds like a reasonable diagnosis. But I would use two bottles of the dry stuff next fill and one each time afterthat until May. They sell six packs in Walmart for like 5 bucks. Don't waste your money on premium gas for your engine. Saudi Arabia has enough of our money.

Hey P'Chop, you're not too far from me. I live near Kingston. Isn't there a dragstrip by you?

Hey Pork chop and jvojr. Thanks for you help and concerns. Pork chop, it fires right up when cold, and I mean cold. It was a -15 below zero the other morning and it fired right up on the first crank, so the fuel pressure regulator is not the problem. In fact, the only time it gave me a problem was on a "warm" start, like it was getting too much fuel....I'd turn it over and it would go."rrrr...sputt, sputt, and not catch...on the 2nd crank it would start and then run fine. In the last week or soo It's started right up without that problem. Thanks for all the advice...maybe I had a tank of "bad" gas.

It could be a tank of crapy gas, I think everyone has gotten some not up to par gas. If you ever get your injs. out, look at the tiny hole, It doesn't take much crap or water to block everything. I've used LUCAS inj. cleaner since 30k, got 127k now. Had the inj. out a few weeks ago, only a little crap on outside, holes clean. Inj. cleaner does work and so does DRY GAS, not the cheap stuff. You need the ISOP. alcohol in it. Make sure you change your gas filter reg.(once a year) and you should have no fuel problems. LOL P'CHOP

Hey JVOJR, There is a dirt track about a mile away, Its Albany-Saratoga Race Track they race there on Fri. nights. No dragstrips here,closest is Leabbon Valley

Where is the Valley at?

hey porkchop....is "dry gas" the actual brand name?.....I've always been told "heet" was the best. Anyways, the last week to ten days, the GP has started right up on the first try:) Thanks to all you guys reponses.

HEET is a brand name, around here we have HEET, gas line anti-freeze, or DRY GAS depends on who makes it. The good stuff has ISOPROPHYL ALCOHOL in it, it absorbs water, doesn't clean the system. LATER P"CHOP