I need a good radar detector. I don't really have a price range right now but I don't want to pay out the butt. I heard there are radar detectors that mess up cops radars and also I heard some cops have radar detectors for radar detectors? News to me. (Is that true?) I also heard they have radar detectors that block their detectors for radars. Lol so complicated.


I know I should let off the led foot, but I still would rather just get a radar detector lol

EDIT: I just found out to see if a jammer and detector are illegal in your state. http://www.1stradardetectors.com/radar-detector-laws.php

I have an 80 dollar cobra from target and its saved me time and time again.

Otherwise, the Valentein one is supposed to be great....400-500 bucks

Also, escorts are all really good.

Depends on how much you wana spend, personally I wouldnt spend over 100 bucks for one, seeing as i speed but not ALL the time.

Ive got good "cop eyes" also, so being vigilant and having a cheap detector is your best weapon. I think lol

To be honest and not try to BS you guys at all, I have a lead foot. I speed all the time, and last night, I got yet again another $250 ticket, so I decided i'm going to buy one to save me money in the end. (I always get caught at night from them hiding with their lights off and catching me. Usually always on the highway)

Is the cobra a jammer and a radar detector?

How will this save me? Like how do they work? I am really interested. Does it detect their device while they are using it or at all times. Do they have to be painting other vehicles in order for me to be warned? I am really curious how they work and how I can help the radar detector out myself


EDIT: I just found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9dJVcSV71Q

V1 best one you can buy.

http://www.valentine1.com/

Reasonably priced: I know there is a Cobra at walmart for like $150 that works great.

Cobra is usually radar detector. They may make a jammer but not that I know of.

Ok so basically a radar detector detects radar lol.
Depending on how much you spend the better they are. BY that I mean they will pick up the radar signal from the cops guns earlier giving you more time to slow down.

Now if your going 90 in a 35 or 40 or something and a cops on the side or something, no detectors going save you.

For instance Ka is a standard police radar frequency. For my detecter it goes up to "5"

Once its at 4 or 5 they have your speed, so if you get it at 1 you have ome time, and as the gun and your car get closer the number goes up.

Laser wont do much, once laser is detected they have your speed so you might as we get a jammer. But for that your looking at a grand or more install into the car.

There are some awesome setups that install receivers on your plates and thats probably your best investment. But again, thats usually about 1200 just for the kit, assuming you want to install and run the wires yourself.

Personally, If i were you i would do some research and read up pon the Valentine one. Its pricey, but it will show you via directional arrows where the radar is coming from and its a great detector.

This help you?

Yes BlackTop Vinyl, that helped a lot. So to get a jammer it isn't just build in to the radar detector? It is like installed into the car? What were you talking about those things that go onto the plates? Do they aim for the plates or something? What do those things you were talking about do? Accorsing to that video, if they can't get stuff off of your plates they use the blinkers. That means I would have to do it to the blinkers as well?


The valentine1 looks cool, but does it jam? according to the picture on the website towards the bottom, it shows the radar not going in the car's bubble. Is that the case of it jamming or is that just showing it you will know when a cop is using the lazor behind you (Which sounds too late by the time it tell you he is lazing you)

FYI Nuke, watch the cussin on this site. The moderators are pretty serious about cussin, just substitute or w/e.

The cobra ones blow, i was parked next to a cop and it didnt set off, i know its suppose to detect when theyre clocking you, but once your clocked arent you already screwed ? so its worthless unless you get a 400$ one to me

jorgs_7, do you have a $400 one?

No way man. Ok first off, cops dont ALWAYS have their guns on. Also, il be driving and ill get a Ka 1 reading, and then sometimes 2 seconds later it rises to 5 and sometimes 1 min later it rises.

So yeah, laser wise ur right. Once you detect it, your done.

But Ka and K have varying degrees and it can often detect it from afar.

I have an 80 dollar cobra as Ive said and it hasn't disappointed me yet. KNock on wood. *knock* *knock* *knock*

ha. good joke, id buy a 3.5 pulley and new headers for that

Haha, well if I had a supercharger I would.

So I take it no radar system I buy will come with jammer capability?

How much $$$ you willing to spend?

you should ask 00grandprixgt, he just got one that can talk to truckers lol and hear the police, which THAT would be worth it lol, but its HUGE like a whole deck for you stereo

Nope, they're out there. But its pretty expensive.

yeah i have a CB radio, scanner and a radar detector. i can get bear reports(location of cops) from truckers, hear the cops talk on their own frequency(or whatever) and have a 40 dollar cobra mounted on the left side of my dash,
Jorgz: idk what your talking about huge its smaller than a aftermarket stereo...lol

jorgs_7, You think it jams also?

ChrisGT, i spent $1000+ on tickets already so far within the last 2 years. I have spent that much on tickets so far so I really don't think i have a limit with the fact in mind that it should save me money in the future.

Holy crap! $1000+ for tickets in 2 years?! I think problem is you. I don't know how fast are you driving. Maybe try leave eary like 10-15 minutes of your habit leaving time. It is worth it. I used be speeding freak like you. I have 3 speeding tickets long time ago. One more speeding ticket then my driver id will suspended. I just like crap. I don't want that. I follow the speed limit for 4 years since then. I don't miss speeding anymore. I was switch "speeding freak" to "slow guy" lol. I think you can change your speeding habit.

Radar detector thing is joke. Some cop don't use radar. Example if you are going 70 mph on 30 mph then the cop is driving oncoming lane and saw you flying fast. Cop turn "u-turn" then you got busted easy without your radar decector warning.

Alright well If you want a sick system then:

I would say for your jammer use:
Blinder M25 - M45 X-Treme
$700-$1000 range

For the scanner I would say:
Beltronics STi Driver Radar Detector
Valentine 1
Escort Passport 9500ix
$500 range for any of them

I used to know a few people who could get they're hands on cop frequency's and monitor that as well.

EXACTLY thats what i said, i had a cop next to me, so i returned 2 of them, its not worth it, try not going fast ? that might help, not sure though, lol just given ya a hard time

they have to be radaring you for your detector to go off genius, sitting next to a cop and it not going off means his radar isnt on, i got poped by a cop and had a radar detector, he could tell how fast i was going by how far away i was pulling from him, so radars dont save everyone, i was an unfortunate one to find out cops are sneaky when it comes to radars.

It is because I drive on a military post to go to work and the MPs hit you hard with tickets. They are expensive and no MP will let you go, they could careless how much they are. They give very little leeway.

@ ChrisGT, the Blinder M25 - M45 X-Treme sounds cool, but do you know anything about it? Like do you have to install it or is it just like plug and play? I plan on getting the 2009 GXP, so if I have to wire install something I will wait until then. If not I will get it now.

Well, my opinion that you should slow down and go like maybe over 5 mph speed limit. Like I said radar detector is joke. You WILL get busted by police if you own good radar detector. My friend have one and got busted by police. BoostenGTP have one and got busted by police. Do you think it is worth it? I think not. Well good luck paying 100 million speeding tickets in your lifetime.

Nuke

You mentioned driving on military installations. You do realize detectors are prohibited to be used?

And Jammers are illegal everywhere.

I don't think jammers are illegal here... When I first started driving we didn't even have a speed limit. I really miss that...

When I mean jammer I am refering to a lazer jammer. If I forgot to mention that prior I appologize. And Radar detectors on base are illegal to USE, but you CAN OWN them. So if you get pulled over you simply unplug it or turn it off and say you only activate it off post (Since it is the law )

oh btw just to let you know a cop knows when you have a scrambler. I mean when he has his laser on you and his reading is scrambled you just pretty much screwed yourself instead of just getting a speeding fine. I mean royally screwed yourself.

lmfao why did you delete your post?
???

Ya, I completely mis read what he said, and felt like a jackass so I tried to edit what i said quickly. I read it too quick and thought he posted that lazers were illegal for every state, I didn't realize he posted that part from their website.

Ya, I completely mis read what he said, and felt like a jackass so I tried to edit what i said quickly.

Either way the cop will know if you have one rather quickly.

I figured :p

So a scrambler is illegal but I can use a lazer jammer meaning when he tries to clock my car it will just show 0000 on his radar right? That is what I am mainly looking for.

nope, thats just another type of scrambler

So I will still get arrested for this? What exactly is a laser Jammer and how is it legal if it is a scrambler?

A "Jammer" jams his signal a "Scrambler" scrambles his signal which in turn messes with his reading.

Either way he can't tell how fast you are going.

Ok, so I am a GO for a Laser Jammer, but a NO GO for a scrambler but they both do the same thing correct?

Lots of people get away with jammers.

Dude just get a Valentine one and start with that.

See how well it helps you.

Ok, well let me paint a picture for you guys to see if I need the Valentine or just a L-CHEEP-O.

I can watch my speed on post so I get no more on post tickets, but what about the highway.

Say I'm going 100 on the highway and a cop is scanning cars ahead of me. Will I get the warning to slow down to 70 soon enough from it bouncing off of the cars in front of me or will it be too late?

With the V1 yes. It has arrows saying in which direction the laser is coming from.

I strongly recommend the Escort Passport 9500. I've owned the 8500 before and they were great, and recently got the 9500... even better. I've done side-by-side with the V1. The only thing I liked more about the V1 was the directional indication.
The Passport 9500 has GPS features that will automatically learn false alarms and ignore them. Truely is awesome.

I know radar detectors can't protect you 100%. Using the passport detectors for the past 6-7 years and speeding like hell, yet still paying attention and being careful, I haven't gotten a single speeding ticket (and I drive daily through speed traps and notorious ticket cities)

i dont mean to bust your nuts or anything but how about just NOT go 100 mph in a 70?

i live on a military base as well the highest speed limit we have is 40. we have a points system how have u not gotten ur base tags taken?

to tell you the truth if u go 100 in a 70 you will only knock off like 2 or 3 min at most on ur trip depending on the distance.

take it or leave it im just sayin y would you spend $1200 on a jammer and $500 more on a detector when u could spend $0 and just not speed.

im just talkin from one military member to another, take it to the track if u have a speed problem.

If your running at 100 in a 70 cop won't need radar or lazer to pick you out of a crowd. You'll be the jerk flying past everyone.

I thought 70 mph is pretty fast enough but 100 mph is way dumb. :rolleyes:

First off, I have no idea about any point system on my post. I got my post stickers before I ever got any tickets, and even if I had tickets, as long as my license isn't suspended on post and all my tickets were paid off, it wouldn't matter how many tickets I got to get my on post stickers.

I guess I like going fast for the adrenalin rush. In Iraq I get shot at. I see the enemy muzzle flashes; I hear the rounds crackle above my head. I feel my legs run faster as I hear bullets hit walls behind me. I live the rush in Iraq so I guess I sort of seek for it when I am back home. My best friend who is also Infantry is the same like me. I don't know how you guys say 100 is a lot when him and I don't even consider anything more than 130 a lot. But it is probably because all of us have seen different things and experienced different things in life.

I mean, I know some guys that ride street bikes that go like 125 down the highway and I call them crazy, but the one's I talked to say they don't think that is fast at all. But I guess it is because him and I see things differently lol.

I guess that is the only explanation I have to wanting to go fast all the time. And just to clear things up, after I got my 2nd ticket on post, I never sped on post again. I was going 31 in a 25 and they raped me for it. It was retarded, but that is MPs I guess. The other tickets were on the highway.

@zuulmusic, is it cheaper than the V1? Do you really think I should get that in stead? It sounds better I would think without faulty signals. Is it worth it?

Am I the only one who thinks that is the most ridiculous excuse for driving 100-130mph down a highway?
:rolleyes:

lol I don't know what to say after read this. So no you are not only one think it is ridiculous excuse.

No, you aint the only one. Stupid decisions like this is what causes returning Soldiers to kill innocent Americans on our highways and biways. I am more than convinced that you are not a Captain in the United States Army.

Soldier, for your safety, the well-being of your family, and the safety of any one else peripheral to your actions, STOP BEING STUPID!!!

If you feel offended by my statements, you can email me at richard.candelario@us.army.mil.

Rick, that's good post.

Haha, this post has gotten really ridiculous.

I respect every guy who goes over there and does that for us, but that is a terrible excuse.

i respect officers of all branches, and for you to be an O-3 in the US army and not have the common sence to understand what you are doing is stupid, idk what to tell you. dont you give safety briefs to your division? ( or whatever you call it in the army ) one of the first things covered in every one has to do with driving. to go slow and abide by he traffic laws.

i havent been over to iraq yet. its hard to get a chance to go with the job i have, but i know that if i came back from that i wouldent use that excuse to do anything stupid. you went thru all that risking your life to protect us and your family back home and still come back here and risk your life and the lives on the road with you the same lives you swore to protect just to satisfy your needs. that sir makes no sence at all.


i say this with the upmost respect sir, for your safety and for those around you. if you need that "rush" take it to the track please! where you cant hurt anyone else.

and if i offended you you can also email me at richard.mcintyre@navy.mil

ACAN MCINTYRE
US NAVY
NAS WILLOW GROVE
OPS DEPARTMENT
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL DIVISION

(YES IM ONLY AN E-3)

Ok, guys? Where did you get the idea that he is a Captain? From his sig? That's for a CLAN for a GAME, not the military. So I think you guys need to chill out a little (or maybe a lot), because I think your jumping to [incorrect] conclusions.

Second, that's a small pic, but yes, it does appear to be a PFC rank.

Finally, I don't think his excuse is a stupid one. He's saying it's for the adrenaline rush. That is the ENTIRE reason we enjoy racing and/or speeding. So maybe y'all should think about it before saying it's a stupid excuse, because I think most of you would agree with him. Does that make doing it ok? Of course not.

Oh, and if you enjoy being shot at, then THAT is stupid. Enjoying getting shot at WILL get you killed.

I still find as not a good excuse. There are safer ways to cure the adrenaline rush. GROW UP!!!!!!

You realize that attitudes like that is what accounts for most of the homeside service deaths? More young soldiers were killed in car/motorcycle accidents last year then were killed in Iraq?

You wanna go fast fine take it to a track.

If you feel offended you can email me at

robert.rinaldi@navy.mil

Ohh and I bet if your unit commander knew what your attitude was in regards to vehicle safety you'd be on the carpet immediately.

Uhm no offense guys but if you took his sig to be a real account of his earnings well then haha

+ I don't think he ever said he was a Captain. I could be mistaken and I will look at the posts more in depth but it doesn't seem like he actually said he was a Captain.

I had never said he was a CPT, nor has he. This PFC (the Marines dont have Rockers on their rank until they make Staff Sergeant) is making people believe that he is, indeed, a CPT in the US Army and an Operator. I am convinced, after MAC's searching, that his sig is simply his earnings in America's Army.

Soldier, I would highly recommend that you go to counseling. You are in need of help in re-adjusting to life here in the States. I was in a similar condition some years ago.

As for the speeding: SLOW DOWN. Your family and friends love you, need you around, and would be DEVESTATED if you had harmed yourself while going 130 MPH.

Who cares, I think the dude up and left anyway.

I find his claims of fines on post a little odd. I've never seen fines issued. Base points yes and if he got as many as he claimed his sticker would have been scraped and base driving privildeges revoked.

hercs right.

here its 12 points a year.

3 for speeding 0-9 mph
5 for speeding 10-20 mph
5 for wreckless driving which is up to the MP

i deleted my post earlier cause i thought it seemed harsh. i was pretty upset is all.

most Army posts will issue fine tickets. I was issued enough to know this personally. AND they assess Post Points.

I've only dealt with Airforce and Navy bases. Years past you'd just rack up points on base no fines and your state and insurance weren't notified. Then they changed things and now they report to the state so your record starts taking hits.

I've had a few shipmates get their base driving priviledges yanked for multiple violations.

on-post violations are NOT reported to insurance or LEAs, but you do hafta pay a Federal Magistrate Court, and you can lose on-post driving priviliges if you rack up enough violations. It's been like that ever since 1998.

No I am no Captain. I just got Specialist last week. This Banner on my signature was made from a game rank (America's Army) This banner does not portray my personal life.


@Acefighter, I just read your post (I was doing a field problem for a few days, no computer. I apologize) He is correct to the fact while I speed for the rush. And just to clear something up, I NEVER said I LIKED to get shot at, I said it happens in my line of work. Infantry are the ones that kick down their doors and fire at and get fired at by the enemy weapon wielders inside. And for everyone that thinks it is a horrible excuse to drive fast, I apologize, but truth be told,that is all I can think of that would be the reason behind it.

I am the guy in the Army that doesn't smoke, dip, chew, do drugs, or drink. I don't like any of that stuff, makes me sick to my stomach, but I like to drive fast. I wonder if that is the reason I like it and no the other things, for the fact that I may be addicted to driving fast. (Can you get addicted to that?)

And Rick, they do tell us every weekend to drive safe etc, but you should know not everyone follows every one of those rules. We also say don't drink and drive, and every week there is some stupid soldier that has to test that.

EDIT First off, where did I once state that I was a Captain. My sig is from a game, so before you guys get off topic and start judging my personal life and trying to claim me dishonest, why don't you just ask.

Also, there is no such thing as a point structure on an Army post that I have ever heard of. You get a ticket, pay it off, and that is it. If you were going over 22mhp over the speed limit you get your license suspended on post for 90 days. I still have my most recent ticket for my records. And there, yet again, before accusing me, you guys should just ask.


And just so everyone knows, I am getting a brand new "Escort Passport 9500i Radar Laser Detector with GPS" even though it might prove useless since I may volunteer to deploy with a unit that is leaving over there in 2-3 months. In Iraq you practically make double than over here, and over there, there is no speed limit lol so no speeding tickets. I have never got any soldiers hurt over there in combat while driving so incase you guys thought I drive like a mad man in a military vehicle, before i get accused of it, I wanted to say that now.

Like I said you wanna go fast take it to the track.

What do you think your unit commander would think about your attitude towards vehicle safety?

I agree with Hercman. Take it at track if you want to go fast.

Since you said that you speed for rush then try leaving 10-15 minutes early than your habit time of leaving. It is really work for me so you can driving speed limit. I took that advice from my local cop. I used be speed freak before. I'm sure you will change your speeding habit like I did.

If you can't do that then you have a problem.

When you say leave 15 minutes early you are assuming I speed because I need to get somewhere and am running late?

I hate radar detectors. Go with Valentine if you get one. Most people rely on it too much. Plus some turn the sound off cause its annoying, and then get a ticket because they were use to the sound going off to alarm them of radar.
And Laser is soo fast, you won't have time to slow down.
My .02 and $412 fine to prove.

That 9500 he's looking at has GPS integrated so it "learns" all the false signals and ignores those.

ive had a few radars before and have been without one for a year now,and honestly there a waist of time and money.
there times when i go fast and i do it 1)on back roads or 2) with no traffic but its not every day i do that either.
also whats the point of speeding around town?its not like going 45 in a 30 is a big rush ya know?or even goin 90 in a 75...whooo hooo big baller!!!
to me anything over 120 is kinda cool but how in the heck can a radar and YOU react fast enough to slow down?i mean seriously come on!!
i do between 5-9 over on the interstate and pass cars with radars that do the limit....
unless your getting a full jammer setup then just slow your roll man.