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#201542 - 09/17/09 04:01 PM Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Okay we all love Boost, myself, i cant decide on which one i like better, Superchargers or Turbos, Gotta love the sound of a supercharger wine, but also have to love the power and blow off of a turbo, oh and of course. BURNOUTS! heres a few vids wink

Supercharger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87n8jhVO784&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0cuYujW50&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJD5AminEKc

Turbo...on a supra lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534LGpaueZ4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ODehKOpXk&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfS4S4ZAMps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LW4U0I-JLU
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#201543 - 09/17/09 04:28 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Modern turbos are making it harder and harder to justify a S/C.
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#201544 - 09/17/09 11:19 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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I prefer not to wait for power to kick in when I punch the gas.

and if you're about to tell me turbos can be made to kick in quick... then its too small! and weak on upper end.
and if you're about to tell me sequential, then its too expensive and complex.
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#201545 - 09/18/09 01:54 AM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Originally posted by zuulmusic:
I prefer not to wait for power to kick in when I punch the gas.
And s/c aren't as inefficient as they used to be.
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#201546 - 09/18/09 09:14 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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If I had to choose I would choose supercharger then turbo. But they are both cool.
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#201547 - 09/18/09 09:30 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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When you say supercharger your saying Top Mount right?

I <3 centrifugal blowers don't get me wrong every time I see an F2 Procharger I nut a little however centrifugal blowers have the same downfall as a top mount roots style. They are both belt driven.

You run into belt slip even with 8 rip setups. You have to buy pulleys you have to drop pulleys to increase boost and you cannot brake boost. Also you cannot two step well there would be no point on a blower really...

Turbos on the other hand are exhaust driven and turbo lag is very low on most cars since most cars don't slap a T freakin 88 on their engines.

Turbo lag all comes down to stroke, how fast the exhaust can leave the turbine side and how fast the compressor side can shoot the air into your engine.

Grand prix's have one of the worst setup for spool and I am still at full boost before 2.8rpms. Most hit boost between 3 -4k depending on size of turbo etc.

Here is my look on it

Turbo + Auto = Godly
Turbo + Manual = you better not drop out of boost

Supercharger + Manual = good because even if you drop in your rpm band the boost is instant.

Top mount blowers suck because of heat. The typical non I/C m90 has an exit temp over 200* ... 2 freakin hundred degrees!!! If I want my air that hot ill tie my exhaust into my intake thank you very much. And top mount I/C aren't very efficient at all.

I like centrifugal because you fmic same with turbo's.

Meth is always a good solution too but if you shoot it in between your S/C and Maf say bye bye to your coating.

With newer tech there is fast spooling turbos and soon to be lag free. But ill believe it when I see it. Until then 2 step ftmfw
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#201548 - 09/18/09 09:39 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Belt slip is a non issue if you run a cog belt.


Then again on a Top fuel car you need 500hp just to spin the blower!!!
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#201549 - 09/18/09 11:49 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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the supercharger whine is what im all about. i just love the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. shift.. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.shift.whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..slow down cause your prolly doin 95

smile
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#201550 - 09/19/09 12:21 AM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Originally posted by MAC GTP:
the supercharger whine is what im all about. i just love the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. shift.. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.shift.whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..slow down cause your prolly doin 95

smile
lol

I like
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#201551 - 09/19/09 06:35 AM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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#201552 - 09/19/09 10:24 AM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Quote:
jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop
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#201553 - 09/19/09 12:10 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Quote:
Originally posted by jorgs_7:
Quote:
Originally posted by Acefighter:
[b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wodH-39tT78&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

S/C FTW. lol
jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop [/b]
cog belt FTW!!!

Did I get a hint of a gear drive in there as well?
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#201554 - 09/19/09 01:55 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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#201555 - 09/19/09 02:07 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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#201556 - 09/19/09 04:26 PM Re: Superchargers Vs Turbos
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Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_vGkSe24&feature=fvw

A good ad for streetfire wink
i LOLed laugh
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