I would think 750s are on the big side as well for a beginner.

What is the hard part for a begginer?, the weight? the handling?
I found a place where they give a course for begginers, it costs around 150 usd. they use their own bikes and teach from how to start a bike, how to gear, dangerous situations, defensive driving, breaking, hard movments, traffic, the parts of a bike, how to ride with a passenger etc.
I do not have friends with bikes, some of my friends had a Bike when younger but everybody is a father now.
Maybe i'll buy it, then when rain starts on May I'll sell it, but i will know by then how is it to be a bike guy...
Hard stuff here in Mexico City is that drivers do not respect bikes, and traffic is too agressive.

Why you recommend 750 instead of 600??
What are the differences on 600, 750 or 1000, just the HP's??
woud it be so hard for a beginner a 1000 cc bike?, or is it just so dangerous?

And
Could you give me some aprox. prices for
Brake pads
oil change
struts
gaskets
rotors
wheels, etc

just to ponder how much is the difference between a car and a bike maintenance
lets say about a Suzuki GSX R 600

This is very interesting for a begginer like me, what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsY-zoS8j8c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4owLRxSffI

I have never have clear how to downshift, i mean every gear is up but 1st, but when up shifting every gear has an specific position? or just get up the lever?
When going down on the speed how to know whic hgear do you need?

I'm not clear right??

If you are getting a sport bike as your first bike, 600's are not recommended. It can be done (I did it), but it can be dangerous. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't take a safety course. Try to find some under a 600 to start on, and then plan on upgrading after a year or so.

On a 600cc, you won't get much more than 45mpg (if you drive very conservatively). On my liter bike, I get an average of 32 (2 less than my g/f's Saturn).

Alex

Motorcycle transmissions are sequential. In otherwords one click one gear. First gear is at the bottom so you can always find it, neuteral is between first and second so when you bang down through the gears you won't end up in neuteral and not have any get out of the way power.

As for shifting I'll tell you what I told my wife.

The bike will let you know if your in the wrong gear. If the rpms are through the roof shift up, if the motor is bogging down then shift down.

The hardest part is getting it rolling. After that...

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I also agree w/ the others on how big of a bike. I rode for about 6 months, and had a 600 cc. Ninja. The bike was plenty powerful for what I needed, and for my experience level, and yet, I still laid it down. It was just some stupid little mistake, but it caused a lot of damage to the bike, and could have hurt me if I was on a bigger bike, or didn't have the little experience I did, on how to fall correctly. Don't go over 600cc on a sport bike for your first bike.

get a 1000, all you have to be worried about at first is turning at low speeds which you will find is very easy once you have some experience. you can moderate how much power you use. the faster your going the more stable the bike is. the power of the bike doesn't really matter. you can nail it harder as you get better. all you have to know how to do is lean and balance your weight. big bikes ride just like 600's until you get over 9k and then they want to pull up, all you do is lean forward. and bigger cc bikes have alot more power when your just cruising in a high gear.

100% wrong. 100% terrible advice.

Having ridden well over 25 bikes of all different displacements, years, and styles, I'll justify.

1000's pull more off the line due to a wider powerband. A 600 will not come alive until after 5k rpms or so. In first, I can't give it more than 1/4 throttle or the front end pops off the ground. At some point while learning to ride a bike, you will give it too much gas. You'll be thrown into the back of the seat, which will cause you to pull the throttle even more. It's tough on a 600, but don't even try it on a 1000. You're front end will be off the ground and you'll end up on the ground.

Over 8-9k rpms, there is virtually no difference between a 600 and a 1000 in terms of acceleration. I don't know where you would I get the idea that they are different.

With turning at low speeds, there is virtually no difference between a 600 and a 1000. The most common motorcycle accident is due to running wide into turns because people don't learn how to ride the bike before they ride the bike.

On the street, you will never reach the full potential of a 600. It is not possible unless you are on a track. All you have to do is read some blogs by track racers and they will tell you that a 600 is 10x easier to ride than a 1000. Obviously there is a reason for that.

If you are going to start on a 600, it's recommended that you buy a mid-90's model. These carb driven bikes will be a little tamer, but still give a first time rider plenty of room to progress without requiring an upgrade.

Telling someone to get a 1000 as a first bike is just plain ridiculous. It's irresponsible.

But an irresponsible person may buy a 1000 bike just cuz they want more power. My friend just got his license and as his first bike he bought a 900cc, forget what model it is. But barely knowing how to ride a bike, he learned how to ride it on the drive home from the dealer.

I think people should be able to buy any bike they want. I'm a strict libertarian and don't care about what anyone does if it doesn't affect me.

If someone goes out and buys a 1000 because they want more power, then who cares? The issue is that a 1000 shouldn't be a recommended bike for someone that hasn't ridden before and doesn't know any better. I'm not going to run to Mexico and stop Alex from buying a literbike, but I'm also not going to tell him that it's a good idea and a wise decision.

Ignorance is bliss.

The thing is people "think" they out grow one bike and move up to the next. So their thought process is why start on the little bike when you'll out grow it in a year? So go straight for the big stuff.

Well let me tell you what. Small used bikes are easy to come by and much easier on the wallet for a beginner. When it's time to move up the little used bike is worth just as much as when you bought it(if you didn't wreck it) So if anything you only be out maybe a couple hundred bucks. Well worth the learning experience.

Your first bike isn't your last. (unless you give up riding)

I agree too, I just thought it was crazy to buy that big of a bike when he had never had any experience on a bike. About 3 months after he bought the bike and wrecked it. So he doesnt have that bike anymore and to my knowledge he hasnt bought another one.

Sadly, that's usually what happens.

When I was buying my latest bike, I sat on every bike I could. There's a place in NH that sells salvaged bikes. I went there because they had a least one of every type of bike. My decision came down to the 600RR and the 954RR. The 954 was 10x more comfortable for the type of riding I do, so I went with it. I sure don't need the power, but I love my bike cause it weighs less than some 600's, corners better, and still has plenty of power at low rpms (which is the majority of my riding).

Hi,

Lot of info, thanks!!
I found this web club here in mexico and started surfing on it, it become terifying when i found this place named: "our fallen partners" lots of pics of people who has died riding his bikes, one because a dog step in front of him, another cause he took some bad asphalt, another one slips on a curve...i'm re-thinking about a bike, the most i read the most i like them but this site really freak me out!!

motors cycles have half the wheels of cars but have twice the risk.