These people are seriously messed up.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrz5k0jWdU

Most ppl here will get very pissed just saying. Mainly when the soldier stuff comes in.

As soon as I saw Westboro Church in the description I closed the video. I've heard enough of them.

Sry if its a repost I just got so ............. anyways ill remove it if you guys want. I'm just dirt pissed.

they are a bunch of idiots, end of story

wasn't familiar with the group, didn't watch the video but read their wiki article... disgusting, no better than the KKK IMO. If they were picketing at someone I loved's funeral, I would go nuts...

Anyone who actually protests at a funeral for soldiers deserves nothing more than a 12 gauge hole in the side of their head

wow....thats all i can say after seeing this. I have never heard of this family prior to this but if they were to show up at one of my relatives funerals who are currently serving im pretty sure I would blow a gasket!

The Westboro Baptist Church is why the Patriot Guard formed in the first place ( www.patriotguard.org ). it was organized to create a buffer zone between the *snicker* church and the grieving Hero's family and friends. Now they're a common sight at these funerals just to show support and make SURE that the service member was adequately escorted and respected. Check out the website. Both myself and Herc are members.

The things some people do in the name of God is just unbelievable...which is one of the big reasons I would like to see religion far,far away from politics.

But this is just plain sad and sickening that these kooks even think they are doing something good.

The church(LOL) is located in Topeka KS which is 150 miles north of me. Most town residents want them out. I am member of the American Legion Post that started the Patriot Guard and have ridden in many funerals. Coldest was 18 and warmest was 105.

http://patriotguardks.org/history.htm

couldn't finish watching the video

They certainly have a deathwish.

x2. Not even going to comment.

My friend was killed in Afghanistan this past October and they came up to protest at his funeral. The community heard about this and there was probably a thousand people there that kept these disgusting people way far from the funeral.

There isn't much of a problem with them here in Texas. There was a soldier from my town killed a couple years ago, and three whole people showed up to protest. There were a dozen cops keeping them away from where the service was, and those dozen cops were probably for their safety. You're liable to have a lynching mob form for doing that kind of thing around here.

I think this video was around in 2008. I have seen it before. That lady is very crazy. I don't blame the children. They are brain washed by mother.

"Thank god for dead solider" sign is too way overboard.

I don't like war stuffs at Iraq. I just wish they just stop the war and get the normal life back like work business instead went out to kill some bad guys. Shoot each other not going to solve everything. Nothing against this soliders but that's just my opinion.

*breathe...breathe...whooo saaaaah...whoooo saaaaaah...* not...gonna...say...anything...I...promised...myself...not...to...react...to...Palsut's...post...calming...exercises...not...working...

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I knew you will react different.

Anyway, I know I'm not solider because I'm deaf. I just wish this world should have a peace instead war. I know it won't happen because we have war history like World War 1 & 2 in past. Guess it will never end since 9/11.

That lady should have her kids taken away. I don't know how teaching them that garbage could be seen as anything other than child abuse.

Palsut, regardless of what we want, Islam preaches death to infidels. Now, most Muslims aren't violent, but as long as radical Muslims are around, they will not stop until every last one of us is dead.

If they want to kill me, I'm not going to try and talk to them. The only negotiating I'm going to do is with a .45 round to the face. Peace through superior firepower is peace nonetheless.

tried by 12 or carried by 6. I'll take the trial. It goes back to: if someone were hit you really hard in the face with, lets say...a lead pipe. Would you smile and tell them that's ok, or would you defend yourself with equal or superior force? Dont lie, you would. Someone points an AK at me, I'm down with sharing. At 2,380 feet per second. 3 times (body, body, head, Soldier, if you wanna live!).

As much as it pains me to say that family has as much right to their views as the rest of us. Nice thing is we don't have to agree with it.

*high five* lol

Hi, I saw a BBC documentary about this family and is really sad how people use their rights for religion and opinion for something as stupid as this. But as Herc said, they have the right, and as I said in a similar post years ago. Your soldiers are fighting and going down far from their families in those countries to defend americans rights, as this people's, so wouldn't it be contradictory to want to shut them?

I don´t think any religion in particular is dangerous, is fundamentalism what is stupid, in any matter, politics, love, religion, etc.

Is just an opinion, don't want to offend.

Regards

I'll play devils advocate this time. I do not agree with what any of these people say, but did you ever stop and think that maybe we have bred this hatred into these people. Why do you think that they hate us? They don't hate us because we have freedoms and different customs, they hate us because we have bases set up in their countries, they hate us because we meddle in everyone's business when they don't want us there. How would you feel if China came over here and had tanks a few miles from your house. They are not they big bad evil people while we are angels.

We didnt have any bases in Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, or Somalia before SEP 01. We do now. Why? Once bin Laden was routed, he left for Pakistan. Pakistan in 2001 allowed us to start setting up staging areas, that turned into bases, for the war effort against Al Qaeda.

Once Saddam was routed, the American and Iraqi civilians begged and pleaded us to stay the course for nation-building. Once the bombs started to rip through the Americans, the weak-hearted portion of our country, like the media and celebrities (who have the loudest voices) started to realize that war is ugly and suddenly wanted us to disregard their previous screams to build a functional democracy. Anyone who dares challenge them must love killing the bravest and greatest that this nation has to offer (not my words. though i do tend to agree).

Now that Iran, Yemen, Somalia, and Haiti are all in the limelight, the civilian and political populace are screaming for us to go in there and get [stuff] done. Yall do realize that 82nd Airborne is a WARFIGHTING Division, right? Same with the 101st Airborne Division, which is who I'm assigned to. WTF are Infantry and other support elements from a warfighting entity doing handing out water in Haiti while we have Yemen to set straight?

Oh, yeah, civilians love to talk, but do nothing else. Getting hands dirty in anything else but their own hobbies or chosen career fields (yeah, I'm talkin general-terms here, folks like Ace bear the brunt of none of this). Lets say you have the average American Civil Engineer. That person wouldnt WANT to go to Haiti. It's dangerous over there. That engineer might catch a disease. I KNOW! Let's send Soldiers and Sailors instead! They're used to being in the suck! What difference would it make to them?

Let's talk Yemen. These mother[lovers] harbor terror cells and camps and such. They launch a few attacks worldwide, including US (remember the USS Cole? World Trade Center 1993? 11 SEP 01? Subways in London? Trains in Spain? Bombings all throughout the Middle East?), so America wants the military to go and kick some [tail], American Style. Cool. Until the first American gets killed. Then those wailing for action will start to wail for us to pull out. Watch. I betcha. Happens everytime.

No, Corey, you're right. We aint angels. The military is a tool of politicians when they cant get their way. The military is to defend, by pre-empting if necessary, by using death and destruction. Why must the Hunter-Killers hunt and kill? Because of those that wish to do us harm refuse to do harm by gently lobbing a pillow or two our way.

At what point in US history, other than American-Indian Wars have we ever went pickin a fight? Revolution and 1812 was the British trying to keep or take back their colonies. Mexican-American, my ancestors were trying to disregard a lawful land purchase made between two governments. Civil were the Confederates trying to make the entire nation like them. WWI: The Austrians killed the Archduke Ferdinand and his wife Sophia, that war threatened to consume the world, so we were asked to intervene. WWII: the Germans sank our hospital ship and the Japanese attacked our naval base in Hawaii. Korea: We were asked to help maintain democracy in the South and were told NOT to take China. Viet Nam: We were begged to help the French bail out because they were getting waxed and the South was being tortured by the VC and the NVA. Cold War/Berlin Wall: The Russian nuclear threat. We had to build up our arsenal so that the American civilian could sleep well at night knowing the Russians didnt want to invoke "Mutually Assured Destruction". Op: Desert Shield/Storm: Iraq (yep, Saddam him self) invades Kuwait (an ally), and threatens to invade Saudi (a LONG time ally). We gave Iraq an ultimatum. They called our bluff, and we had laid seige to Baghdad in less than 2 weeks. Task Force: Ranger: pirates, warlords, and humanitarian crisis forces the US to deploy Special Operations Forces and conventional units to stabilize the area because the American civilians said that it's only right. Baltic Wars: humanitarian crisis and persecution/holocaust/genocide. Previously we had no bases in the Baltic region. At all. Op: Enduring and Iraqi Freedom: OEF was because the Islamic radicals bombed a couple small places in the States, so went to bomb them. OIF: CBRN warfare was being used by Saddam against his own people, persecution/holocaust/genocide that turned into nation building after the incessant nagging of the American civilian.

No, I wouldnt want the Chinese in my backyard right now, because we have a stable government that is able to care for it's own. If my country were as bad as Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, 1955 North Korea, 1967 North Viet Nam, I would WELCOME them to stabilize us. But once we got back on our feet, or the threat were eliminated, they's gots ta go! Like we wanted to do in Iraq. 6 effin years ago, despite what the American civilian was saying back then.

Reason that I just want them stop the war because I hate to see more people getting killed.

Example like US soliders as father, mother, husband, wife or whatever get killed. Pretty sad to see that.

I know some bad guys over there trying destory America. After watch 9/11 live tv, I'm very shocked that they really finally attack the America. I know those crime guys are very dumb to do that.

I have my deaf classmate who live 2 hours from Iraq. He is very nice guy. His name is Shawkat. He look pretty much same as bad guys but I have known him for long time since 1999. When he saw 9/11 attack. He just can't believe his country did that attack. He feel embarrassing about that but I don't point finger at him because he is nice guy. He is not like as this crime guys do.

I just wish just nuke them and get it over but we can't do that because there are some good peoples around in the country.

Aside from the history lesson, which I learned in grade school and the barb at civil engineers, which I hope wasn't aimed at me as I have an internship lined up in Afghanistan this summer. I think you missed what I was getting at.

I am curious as to why you think they hate us. They do not hate us because we have freedoms and they don't.

As to your point on "Kicking tail, American style." We are most definitely the most powerful nation in the world in terms of military power and technology, but it is impossible to fight an enemy like them. We are attempting to smash mosquitoes with a sledge hammer. If you cannot see the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam, then you need to go back and review your history. They hide in holes and mountains and pop out and take us out, there is no definitive enemy until they fire first or at least point the weapon at you (hopefully when your back isn't turned).

I don't want this to be taken as any disrespect towards the men and women in our armed forces. I have nothing but respect for all of you (my brother and sister are going in). I just want to show you the other side of the coin.

The one and only way for the US to not be a target of the radical islamists is to abandon Isreal and pull completely out of the middle east.

I fear I did offend you. No, the barb was not aimed at you at all. I had no idea you were going to AF as well.

THEY hate us because thats what the Imam says. The Imam hates us because parts of Koran says to hate infidels. They ignore the other parts of the Koran that says to hate True Believers (themselves) and Infidels. They ignore the part of the Koran that says to live in peace and harmony with all people of the world, regardless of any other factors.

The biggest parallel that I see between Iraq and Viet Nam AND Korea is that we're fighting a guerrilla war and that the American populace have no more backbone for this kind of war. Civilians at large are too soft to see war for what it is and are pressuring politicians to pull out of the Theatre of Operations, regardless of the consequences. Remember Viet Nam? What happened to Saigon after we left?

The swatting with sledgehammers? Most likely the following concept hasnt been reported about on the news: Winning the hearts and minds of the locals. Also known as Counter-Insurgency Operations. The nutshell is this: you treat the locals the right way and they root out the bad guys for you. They then begin to police themselves and lend legitimacy to their own government. GEN Petraus resurrected this idea. We were using this concept during Viet Nam, and it was working. Until the civilians and media took control of the military.

I don't agree with that. I still don't think they will stop. They want us dead. End of story. They hate us and what this country stands for.

Again, I'm only speaking of the radicals.

I really think if we were separated from the radicals by 1/2 a globe they wouldn't even waste their time.

Rick: I understand what you're saying, and I know that you obviously have some first hand knowledge of what is going on over there, while I am at the will of what is reported to me by the press and a few of my buddies who are over there.

After we left Saigon, the people were slaughtered. It is a terrible truth, but with no light at the end of the tunnel it seems senseless for us to continue to lose the bravest men and women of this country for nation-building overseas when we could use people like that here.

Do you honestly forsee a future Iraq with a democracy who will want to defend their democratic nation? I just do not see, without an American presence, a nation that can/wants to defend itself from everyone in the region who will not want them there as bad as they don't want Israel there.

Ace: Why would they hate us for that? I agree to disagree on that issue, as I just do not think that they hate us for having freedoms over here and a democracy, they hate us because of our actions.

Herc: I completely agree with you.

The problem is the radicals aren't going to stop until every non-Muslim is either dead or converted. Even if the US is separated by half a globe, Europe isn't. We'll still have to back them up.

To quote Homer Simpson (or some guy named Voltaire?) "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
But seriously, there is a legal precedent that police departments are not legally required to protect anyone. So maybe one day we'll get lucky and a police department will exercise it's right to not send officers out to protect those crack heads. Because while I hold dear my Constitutional right to freedom of speech. Everyone must also be held accountable for their speech when it's only purpose is to insult grieving families. This kind of speech is just another form of fighting words. And these people need their faces smashed in!

Also, I never supported the war in Iraq. But when our soldiers are sent into harms way no matter where or why, I fully support ANY and ALL actions that ensure their safe return!

THAT is the attitude I wish more people had. I don't care whether you support the war or not, but support the troops that have to be in harms way.

Who doesn't support the troops? I would be willing to bet that 90% of people support the troops.

Uh...*points to the most hated family in the world* lol

I don't support the war but I do support troops.

Of course I don't support bad troops like guy throw puppy in cliff from internet video or raped some Iraq girls which it has been on news all over few years ago. Some troops are good or bad. No one is perfect I guess.

Hopefully, the war will end someday so rest of troops will go home safe to spend time with family.

Maybe it won't stop because there is guy who actually try blow up the airplane in Christmas which you probably heard about that from news. What's up with that guys blow themselve? Do it in your own country instead USA :rolleyes:

like the guys in Pakistan that blew the Americans up on their way to a school grand-opening? or like the guys in Karbala and Baghdad just recently? or Isreal? or...do you really want me to continue?

If the terrorists/insurgents target operations ONLY in their own turf, then they dont really ever scare or kill their intended prey: Americans. Where else in the world to you have a greater concentration of Americans than in America?

I also found it funny that the media had mentioned that the Americans were on the way to an opening of a school that they helped rebuild only because it was the only way the story could be understood. How much attention was given to the fact that American forces rebuilt something?