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Hey my 97 grand prix 3800 series 2 has rusty cocoa colored oil, which means water/antifreese in oil, does that mean I should also look for another motor? only difference is I never drove it in this condition, just warmed it to operating temperture to do compression test.

Well every little part is falling apart first this vacume hose.


this sensor just came apart when trying to pull out


Guese every thing is just brittle after not replacing in a while.

That's UR map sensor about $60 ,If U need one PM me I can fix U up cheap.Chico(pops)

Your not kidding 60+, have some for 29+, but better stick to the good shtuff, PM sent, thanks Pops

Got the injector rail off, nasty looking, pretty sure there was some kind of air leak there on/around injetors.
Got UIM off looks to be good shape, along with gasket. Will replace gasket for sure though
and the bolts holding th UIM in, I did not have to use hardly any force at all to get them off, I just used a socket screwdiver, some seemed pretty loose.







^^whats that plastic tube on gasket? its not supose to be hooked u to anthing, is it?


Regular colored oil in intake also, hopefully that means coacoa collored oil didn't circulat through engine.

Darn it? Just kidding, engine is fine, but just because I joked around about rain, it's gonna rain all weekend.

To drop the pan your gonna have to either drop the cradle first or lift the engine up.

Yea forget it I am not going to dry the bearings and whatever That oil is still pretty thick so I think they'll be fine, thanks HercMan

Well as hot as she got on freeway (didn't hit the red zone but stayed close)and the amount of time I had to drive before i could pull over I am suprised the uim didn't warp, straight edged everyway possible.


And also do you think this set is good enough from Autozone?
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog...e&parentId=51-0

The curved end of the tube goes into the UIM under your PCV valve. The clips on the gasket help to hold it in place.

Thanks bud, Maintenance book says check cam timing@ 75,000,I bnought with 115,000 miles, don't know if previous owner(s), followed up with maintenance, nothing in writing anyway, and lady I bought car off of moved?

Got the rh head off, gasket looked to be in good shape, no milkshake on cylinder walls, only on top of head, after loosening head bolts's acording to manual, antifreese did come out of the botom bolt hoes when removed. Normal/or sign of bad gasket. Starting to think low compression was do to a burn't valve. will send this head in and have it worked on. Piston's looked good, little carbon build up on one.
valves, only first one from front was white the rest were the same in color, light brown, Curious about low compression on #3.
Pawned my camera so no pics til fri.
Now to start on other head.

One more thing are the valves suppose to be flush w/head, cause it does look like a couple stick out a tiny,tiny bit, I thought the springs were suppose to keep them flush with the head, if you rub your finger across you can feel the valves sticking out, possibly causing compression reading's. Hopefully just sticky valves and not worn springs.

What ya think of this quote, ever heard of it? and mine has 125k so hopefully mine a valve job won't do any damage. I was asking for a good auto machine shop to do valve work on clubseagp and thats one respone I got