If I have FWI then maybe we are tied.

ive got a underdrive pulley along with some tuning

what is this amature hour ? lol

if andrew has the tune and the exhaust/FWI


i think hell pull it off by a little, but palsut has the u bend delete right ? sooo hmm, youre right palsut, photo finish.

Not bad. Any plan for 3100 engine or you are done with them?

Yeah, I think he will pull it off little bit ahead to me.

the plan is a 3400 with a tiny cam with a bump in compression,along with head/intake porting.But it may end up as a .30 over 3400 with ported head/intake.not lookin to make a powerhouse but a good mpg car with some gitty up

So far andrew is only ahead by 1 vote and there also is a tie.

Well, I think it is over now. He won because he beat me for 0-70 mph video.

There is other goodies for 3100 engine. Their business is around 40 miles from me.

http://www.milzymotorsports.com/

Wow, turtle race...

WOW is right with Milzy $2700 for their stage 2 performance kit this would put down an amazing 200hp and 200 tq ,that makes about as much sence as this post the 3100 was an economy option for people not interested in performance in fact most modern 4cyl offer better perfomance the sad thing is the 3100 does'nt even offer any better fuel economy than 3.8 SC ,I really do'nt see any benefit to the boat anchor option in a 3500lb car it is clearly underpowered and throwing $3000 at it just so it can get out of it's own way is just ludicrous ,this motor belongs on GM's pile of scrap motors that should have never been built .Chico(pops)

the 3100 is not just in the grand prix's and you know that there's plenty of peeps running 60v6,so many in fact that there's a market for them so that does say something.
Whats the point of modding any car??For me its a hobby and what i like to do.Granted my modding on this car is in the intrest of mpg ill continue to mod it.

We might have slow engines but there are some other cars are slow too. I'm not going to make my car fast because I'm more appearance guy than racing guy.

Your 3800 supercharger engine is slow too. There is other sport cars like Viper, Corvette, GTO, G8 and other car who have powerful V8 engines than 3800 engine will blow you away.

every vehicle it is in is similarly heavy. chico's right, with the GP coming with the 3.8 or 3.1, there is no reason to performance mod a 3.1. The S/C 3.8 stock outperforms a mildly modded 3.1, and pulls in the same gas mileage. I agree the 60V6 is a better setup, but the angle doesn't compensate for the loss of displacement.

And the Grand Prix is a fraction of the price for any of these. All of our cars are worth a similar amount, between $3000-$7000. All of those cars are at LEAST twice our pricetag. The Viper is more like 15 times more. Give me 80k and I will have a Grand Prix that will blow the doors off of a Viper/Vette/etc.

That's right. I know some of them can't afford fast car like Viper, Corevtte or whatever.

In other site that almost half of members trade their gp for G8. I think G8 GT is now around $21k instead $30k. That's make everyone want give grand prix up to get G8