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#2579 - 05/07/07 05:55 PM Spark Plug Wires
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Is there any benefit to having non-stock plug wires with Autolite 103s? I purchased the PRJ wires with my 103s but have not recieved any of it yet. Is it worth it or should I return the wires and stay with stock?
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#2580 - 05/07/07 06:03 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Are those the $120 wires? The 10.4 mm? Those I believe are the best, but if you want to save some money, just get OEM wires that is the best alternative (but without any color).
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#2581 - 05/07/07 06:18 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Yes, those are the wires that you are referring to. What benefit do they give me over stock wires?
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#2582 - 05/07/07 06:21 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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I've heard that you can't get much better than OEM plug wires.
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#2583 - 05/07/07 06:28 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonezergling:
I've heard that you can't get much better than OEM plug wires.
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#2584 - 05/07/07 07:07 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Originally posted by Kev-GTP:
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
[b] I've heard that you can't get much better than OEM plug wires.
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#2585 - 05/07/07 07:55 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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OEM is best.

The rest are just bling.
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#2586 - 05/08/07 04:08 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
I've heard that you can't get much better than OEM plug wires.
Any proof to back that up?
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#2587 - 05/08/07 04:30 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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No. But they are.
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#2588 - 05/08/07 04:38 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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I've never heard of OEM plug wires failing before they should.

I have heard of other aftermarket wires failing before they should.

Good enough for me.
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#2589 - 05/08/07 04:41 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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My '66 Riviera still has its original wire set; good enough for me... hammer
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#2590 - 05/08/07 04:52 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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The nice thing about PRJ wires is that they usually last the life of the car... If you have one that fails I've heard he's real good about repairing them.

Stock wires are good, but I'm not sure if they last as long as PRJ's...
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#2591 - 05/08/07 04:56 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Originally posted by ordonez1307:
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
[b] I've heard that you can't get much better than OEM plug wires.
Any proof to back that up? [/b]
I believe ZZP uses OEM plug wires on their 9-second GP. I don't think it gets much better than that.
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#2592 - 05/08/07 05:46 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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My only problem with OEM wires is that I've heard plenty of stories of them getting brittle and then breaking when you change your plugs.

I was extremely careful doing my plugs and I still broke one of my OEM boots.

My MSD cables have been just fine, and I can change my plugs without worrying that I'll tear the boot apart.
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#2593 - 05/08/07 06:13 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
No. But they are.
lol...good point :rolleyes:
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#2594 - 05/08/07 10:18 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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I've only heard that the failure rate is much higher with aftermarket wires. Boy do those MSD's look pretty though.
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#2595 - 05/08/07 11:02 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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ZZPs view on wires and coil packs

Aftermarket coil packs

The stock ignition on a Grand Prix is very good. So good that we run stock coil packs on all of our cars at ZZP. Failure rate of stock coil packs is almost zero and the spark output is extremely high. We have A/B dyno tested aftermarket coil packs and seen no difference in HP. We have seen many aftermarket units fail and when customers have a problem it's very hard to diagnose with 'extra' mods on the car.



Aftermarket Plug wires

Unless you have a problem with your stock wires, don't buy aftermarket ones. In our experience of working on GPs the failure rate of aftermarket wires is over 10 times that of stock wires. GM puts everything they have into making cars get the best mileage they can with the least amount of problems. A poor ignition system would increase emissions, which GM couldn't afford. This means plug wires from the factory are designed for high spark, low radio noise and excellent performance. All of the ZZP cars run stock wires.
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#2596 - 05/09/07 03:51 AM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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I'm going to have to disagree with ZZP's statement on wires and I wo'nt be brand specific,ZZP is a great co. for the 3800 crowd do'nt get me wrong but they are not god and they make mistakes and have blunders ,so take there advice with a grain of salt ,I do'nt like the idea of quoting a vendor when giving parts advice .Chico.
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#2597 - 05/09/07 08:09 AM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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But you gotta think if the vendor is pushing OEM and not an aftermarket brand that there should be some validity.

What do they have to gain from saying buy the OEM parts? If they were saying by brand X then that would be a different story.
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#2598 - 05/09/07 05:40 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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i think it would be different if ZZP said "Brand X wires are the greatest! Buy them from us!"

Instead, they run OEM coil packs, which they dont even offer
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#2599 - 05/09/07 10:24 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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Well I'm not going to debate ZZP's take on plug wires,I will say OEM wires are adequate and there is no real need to upgrade but I do not agree that they are the best wires out there,one of my favorite wires are the Accel 8.5 race wires also the PRJ wires are excellent both are expensive but I've never had them fail .Chico.
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#2600 - 05/09/07 10:52 PM Re: Spark Plug Wires
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I understand what you are saying. Im sure that if you really want to spend the $ and not get any real noticable gain, then you can. But OEM wires work for me
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