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#28861 - 05/27/10 05:19 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Well tried saving you time and money.
Your fault you didn't address the board before you began fabbing.
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#28862 - 05/27/10 05:46 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Originally posted by 20gtp02:
Well tried saving you time and money.
Your fault you didn't address the board before you began fabbing.
Yes, I should address people like you. Who have absolutely no idea what you're doing with a setup like this. How many intake manifolds have you welded together? How many turbo kits have you made?

I will be sure to address you every step of the way after this to make sure you don't let me make any mistakes. :rolleyes:
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#28863 - 05/28/10 09:11 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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You're always saying people can't take jokes.
I was throwing in some sarcasm about addressing the board.
You've heard worse from Fred.
I just figured you wanted a fast car yet you'd like to be able to open the hood and be like here is the masterpiece.
I really couldn't see you wanting that after you spent time and money building a sweet phenolic setup to rush and put a strange looking intake on there.
Please Corey don't hate me.
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#28864 - 05/29/10 12:39 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Your just hateing on him because he didn't fashion it out of wood! Lol j/k
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#28865 - 05/29/10 10:43 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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#28866 - 06/24/10 12:57 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Sorry to bring up an older post but I saw this at club gp:

Ordonez would this work with what you are planning to do (this upper intake)? I know you were trying to experiment with the upper intake..

Maybe this would work, maybe it wouldn't, I have no idea?
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#28867 - 06/24/10 09:04 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Thats a pretty clean looking set-up. If you go with a vertical TB then wont you have to have a prettyhard bend to clear the hood? Or did I miss something in the last couple pages? (oops)

I guess my big question is how much lag time will you have with such a large turbine housing? Granted, once it spools the car will probably lift off and achieve escape velocity, but the ramp up time could be painfully slow (in racing time of course) laugh
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#28868 - 06/24/10 11:47 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Alpine, those upper hats aren't available any more and really do not do anything more than a gutted supercharger housing. You'll still be limited to the flow of the LIM on the l67 which isn't great and the w2a cores we have really hold you back compared to a nice w2a setup or even small a2a front mount.

Tbat, the lag time actually helps a little because it lets you get up to speed before you roast tires. Once the boost hits it spins hard unless you feather the throttle. I will have to get a video up to show what 1/2 throttle and only 15 psi will do to heavy 18" rim's....
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#28869 - 06/24/10 01:01 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson:
Alpine, those upper hats aren't available any more and really do not do anything more than a gutted supercharger housing. You'll still be limited to the flow of the LIM on the l67 which isn't great and the w2a cores we have really hold you back compared to a nice w2a setup or even small a2a front mount.

Tbat, the lag time actually helps a little because it lets you get up to speed before you roast tires. Once the boost hits it spins hard unless you feather the throttle. I will have to get a video up to show what 1/2 throttle and only 15 psi will do to heavy 18" rim's....
Oh ok I see the LIM now (thought that replaced it). Maybe you could find a way to remove the LIM and have something like what that guy did in pic above to replace it? Just another thought.
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#28870 - 06/25/10 02:50 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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My intake will be one piece. The upper manifold is welded directly onto the LIM. It has changed a bit in the design from the previous setup, but I like this new design a lot more. It is a once piece setup that allows for no boost leaks anywhere. I might be able to get some pics up as soon as the final welding of the TB flange is done.

Tbat- These Holsets are supposed to spool ridiculously quick for their size, and should get the job done. It is a big turbo, though, so who knows?


A bit of an update also, I am wiring up the turbo timer today along with the nitrous switches. Got the oil feed line tee'd in and the Racetronix/Walbro 255 fuel pump in the tank (Finally). It is seriously just as slow as the supercharged setup. Now I see why people just spend the money and buy kits that make things easy.
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#28871 - 06/25/10 05:13 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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So you've got the turbo running? Or what do you mean by as slow as the s/c setup?
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#28872 - 06/25/10 05:40 PM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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I assume he meant just as slow to put together, hence the comment about buying a kit.
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#28873 - 06/26/10 12:33 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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One of the cooler intake setups Ive seen looked like this with individual runners to the L36 mani



or somthing like a victor jr intake mani
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#28874 - 06/26/10 10:20 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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that is a sweet looking piece of engineering!

I wonder how effective a twin scroll turbo would be? Fabbing up the header pipes in order to pair the cylinder pulses to each side of the turbine inlet would be a royal pain, but the Porsche engines that use it make crazy power with minimal lag time.
Hyundai's new direct-injected turbo four uses a twin scroll and is thumping 274hp from 2.0L (along with 269 ft/lb torque @ 4500)
I know DI and quad valves contribute to those figures but it is a 75hp boost over the stock 2.4L DI engine.
A good flowing custom intake manifold (like Chris posted) along with a properly plumbed twin scroll w/a2a IC would be real trans killer laugh
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#28875 - 06/26/10 10:49 AM Re: Turbo Setup *New Pics Added Pg. 8*
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Originally posted by ThunderBat:
that is a sweet looking piece of engineering!

I wonder how effective a twin scroll turbo would be? Fabbing up the header pipes in order to pair the cylinder pulses to each side of the turbine inlet would be a royal pain, but the Porsche engines that use it make crazy power with minimal lag time.
Hyundai's new direct-injected turbo four uses a twin scroll and is thumping 274hp from 2.0L (along with 269 ft/lb torque @ 4500)
I know DI and quad valves contribute to those figures but it is a 75hp boost over the stock 2.4L DI engine.
A good flowing custom intake manifold (like Chris posted) along with a properly plumbed twin scroll w/a2a IC would be real trans killer laugh
A2A > W2A all day everyday.

You would be surprised how nice of a vacuum you get in a FMIC setup, as long as there are no boost leaks :p
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