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#28998 - 04/21/07 07:07 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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Herc- I will definitely look into that. Would the 5-star wheels work as well, because I know a guy locally who is selling some of those for cheap.

Chico- by "tuning" for the cam, do you mean raising the shift points and rev limiters? I think on my 1-2 & 2-3 shifts the rev limiter hit before the shift point because it was hesitating before finally grabbing.

Also, I'm pretty sure the guy who tuned my car set the shift points back to stock. So maybe if I can get those raised up and get a little more powerband that might help me net some better ET's.
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#28999 - 04/21/07 07:30 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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a 2.1 60' time isnt that bad. I know your car has more in it. I would have to blame that tune. I was able to run much better times and you have a cam. There is a whole lot more power under there!
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#29000 - 04/21/07 07:44 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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yea 16" drags would be the best $300 mod to get those times down u were def spinning alot because with your power those numbers should be better
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#29001 - 04/22/07 01:51 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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I'm really starting to think Chico is right, that my cam with the top swap isn't working well at all. Check out the comparisons. I assume boosted applications require a higher exhaust lift in order to properly exhaust all that extra air?

Intense S1X N/A Cam
212º/216º at .050” Duration
Intake Lift .327" (.523" lift at 1.6:1 rocker ratio)
Exhaust Lift .321" (.514" lift at 1.6:1 rocker ratio)
113 Lobe Separation

XP hot cam
212°/224° at .050" Duration
Intake Lift .325" (.520" lift at 1.6:1 rocker ratio)
Exhaust Lift .335" (.536" lift at 1.6:1 rocker ratio)
116 Lobe Separation
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#29002 - 04/22/07 05:35 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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Contact Intense and see what they suggest for shift points in your situation.I would say shift points around 6300-6400 with that cam should give you much better results.Chico.
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#29003 - 04/22/07 08:36 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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The 16" torque stars are the lightest set of 16" wheels you are going to find. You only need a pair of them to run on the front.
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#29004 - 04/22/07 09:06 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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For shift points that high will I have to run upgraded springs?
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#29005 - 04/22/07 09:15 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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I would run 90lb springs but you could try stock springs and see if your getting any valve float.Chico.
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#29006 - 04/22/07 04:39 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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chico u had to throw that zex kit on even after the top swap....would ne one on this site beat you lol?......looks great props!!!
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#29007 - 04/22/07 06:08 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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for that high of shift points i would think that springs/retainers would be a must
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#29008 - 04/22/07 09:15 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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As it looks right now, I'm gonna just switch to an XP cam. Several people have run them with their top swaps and had great results. One guy I talked to ran a 13.5 with the stock pulley and an XP cam. It's gonna be a hassle spending all the money to do a cam install over again but I'm confident I can do it now since I've already done it once. I'm also certain I'll be able to see the 13's I want with that setup.

Even with all the work/money involved in doing a cam swap again, it'll be easier than trying to make a cam work on a setup it's not designed for. Maybe for the time being I'll raise the shift points to 6200 and keep the stock springs, but by the end of the summer I wanna have that XP in.

I guess for future reference... DO NOT use N/A cams on a top swap setup. :rolleyes:
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#29009 - 04/23/07 05:12 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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would the stock L67 cam be a good choice if you were going for mild performance?...and still retain some good fuel mileage?
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#29010 - 04/23/07 07:18 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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Stock cam and 1.9 rockers would be a good choice for a DD .Chico.
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#29011 - 04/23/07 10:08 AM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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looking at the trouble drummerboy is having with his non boosted cam....am i able to boost with the comp cam 801 i havnt looked into it yet just wondering....i agree with chico with the stock cam and 1.9 rockers
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#29012 - 04/23/07 03:55 PM Re: Guess the dyno numbers!
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if that cam is made for an N/A car, then no, you wouldnt benefit from it with a blower. Im too lazy to go and look up the #'s
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