I have noticed that DHP PCM shifts thru the gears pretty fast can't that affect have an on a hard launch if you were racing.

Well, when you're racing, I've always heard it's better to manually shift, anyway. Didn't someone say it put it in second until you hit about 93, then shift to third?

(And btw, I love being in a car that can hit 90 mph in second gear. My friend's four-banger Ranger can't even hit 90 mph PERIOD. )

i am also trying to figure out where i should buy my pcm from .... even though everyone says buy a powertuner ... i would love to buy one but for me it would be extreamly hard for me to learn everything

Well i ended up ordering the zzp.

1 they both have unlocked files so they can be custom tuned later on,
2 the diff between both are minimal
3 it was cheaper then the dhp

but honestly if u are planning on doing more progressive mods either way ur still going to need to tune it later

This is true except that the PCM is also going to allow skip shifts... and a WOT 3 to 1 downshift is hell for your input shaft and other things. Also ZZP might have reduced torque management, and the fact that its making more power... overall a PCM is not better for tranny in the end, haha.

yea see that's why I want to build up the tranny...

well u have 100k+ i have 58k so i dont think ill need to right now anyways

*topic hijack*

Let's ask a difference question. ZZP/DHP, or would you say someone else, like Overkill?

You are going to regret doing that lol j/k

But u would have to ask austin since hes the only one i have seen who uses the overkill pcm

Oh, really?

I'm just curious if it's worth getting, or just going with something *slightly* more generic. lol

Its always good to look around and do some research. In the end all comes down to how far u are going to mod your gp. If your going to be doing some serious mods, anyway u put it ur getting a reprogrammed pcm. But if u have a pcm for what ur running now since most are unlocked u can always get it custom tuned later on.

I'm probably not going to hard-core mod my GP. I'd love to, but for now I'd like to focus more on paying my car off.

Let us know how you like the ZZP PCM.

yea good luck with the car!

and yea ill definitely let ya know.

Ill do a before and after comparison for ya too.

Naw, just drive down to daytona and get a Phoenix PCM/cutsom tune!

i havent heard a lot about overkills tunes. but what i have heard sounds pretty good. best thing to know when going about getting a pcm or tuning is to know what you want to change. esp in the shift points.

I believe DHP also has the skip shift.

Anytime you mod you run the risk of damaging something else. Thats the price you pay when you mod.