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#34322 - 08/23/07 10:56 PM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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The M112 is not the Whipple.

Nor is the M112 the same thing as a GenV M90.
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#34323 - 08/23/07 11:35 PM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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woops sry there my bad i thought the whipple replaced the m112

yea the m112 and the genvm90 were before the whipple
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#34324 - 08/24/07 12:30 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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Whipple is an aftermarket company. No cars come with Whipple cahrgers. I believe our whipple is the WX40B or something.

The M112 is a larger displacement blower. Are there and M112 kits for our cars BTW Herc? Not that I'm interested, I'm just curious.

And the GenV M90 is just a redesigned GenIII with little things like smaller silencer slots and other things to make it more efficient.

Then you have Paxton Novi who build the, *cough* zuulmusic *cough* Novi 1000 and 2000 centrifugal superchargers that you can get from ZZP/Stattama.

Then we get into turbos like the Turbonetics 62-1 and T70.
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#34325 - 08/24/07 12:34 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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way to not mention the t66 lol
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#34326 - 08/24/07 12:46 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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smart a$$, heh
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#34327 - 08/24/07 12:51 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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lol no i just think it deserves to be recognized
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#34328 - 08/24/07 12:56 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
The M112 is a larger displacement blower. Are there and M112 kits for our cars BTW Herc? Not that I'm interested, I'm just curious.
Yes. You can get an M90/112 hybrid through Overkill. It was originally a ZZP or Intense product that they sold the rights to. Anyway, it combines the two blowers so they will fit and still give you more boost without creating as much heat.
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#34329 - 08/24/07 10:15 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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i heard that there wasnt much gain from the M112. It really isnt that much of a mod. I think the whipple could be a HUGE step foward for the 3800 community, but they just havent worked out all the bugs yet.
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#34330 - 08/24/07 10:38 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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Magnuson makes an MP112 which is an improved eaton M112.
For bigger engines / V8's, the M112 and MP112 are able to make higher boost levels than the M90. Dunno about on the 3.8's. Apparently genV M90 is the way to go since plenty of people have done it.
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#34331 - 08/24/07 12:08 PM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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hey does anyone know where to get that m112 conversion....i cant find a link to it anywhere.
i think i just got bit again crazy
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#34332 - 08/24/07 02:10 PM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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do ressearch first. Make sure it is what you want.

The GenV blows the m112 out of the water. and if you can get a whipple to work right, that is the way to do it
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#34333 - 08/24/07 04:56 PM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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Except Whipples systems are $3k. If you can fork over the dough, go for it.
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#34334 - 08/25/07 12:56 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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wait gen 5 blows the m112 out?
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#34335 - 08/25/07 01:05 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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That sounds about right. The M112 has such a large displacement, our engines jsut don't have the kind of power to make those larger rotors worth the work.
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#34336 - 08/25/07 02:20 AM Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
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M112 is not a good upgrade for our cars. I don't even think there's a kit for it.

GenV is what you want.
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