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#41950 - 12/17/08 05:42 PM tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
palsut Offline
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I got email from my dad that I choose dealership to call him since I'm deaf. Anyway, I got his message today but I don't buy this story. What do you think? Cold weather make tie rod noise? It is not his word but that's what dealership told him on phone call. This one was repair on May 2008. I think they don't want repair under "free" since it is same part that I'm complain about click noise.

Dealership:
The noise it is making is the tie rod boot squeezing back and forth. Changing the boot will not help. A new one would do the same thing. It is normal but it happens more the colder it gets. When warm weather comes back it will stop.
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#41951 - 12/17/08 07:42 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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umm, no. go to another shop. Or inject your own grease into the fittings if you have serviceable tie rod ends.
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#41952 - 12/17/08 07:48 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Thank for answer. Well, it is already repair by them last May 2008. I would rather have it fix under warranty since it is noise. I will have to talk with them tomorrow. That's why it doesn't make sense to me. My summer car which I have to drive during winter don't make any noise. That's left me a puzzle why it is "normal" to make click noise on this winter beater instead my summer car don't make noise in 4 years?
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#41953 - 12/17/08 08:21 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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they're just trying to squeeze even more money out of you. Either stick with it, or take it somewhere else, or do it yourself. Tie rod ends are not that hard at all. You just might be able to remove and install them with weight on wheels.
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#41954 - 12/17/08 08:27 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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How it is squeeze me a more money if this part is under warranty? It is same part so I always saved the record to prove that so they can't charge me that. So no money for out of my pocket. I can't do it myself because it is snowing/cold out there.
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#41955 - 12/17/08 08:39 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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I've never herd of a tie rod boot squeaking.... then again I have never been in cold enough weather to know for sure...
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#41956 - 12/17/08 08:43 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Me too. I may be deaf but I can feel it from steering wheel. It can't be normal. I will see about that tomorrow. If they still say stupid same story about squeaking noise is "normal".
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#41957 - 12/17/08 08:45 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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If you can feel it, and the tie rods are new, I highly doubt its the rubber boot...
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#41958 - 12/17/08 08:50 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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The click noise is happen only if I'm turning. Dealership found that click noise that are from tie rod and says "bs normal story".
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#41959 - 12/17/08 10:32 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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It's it a click or more of a clunk?
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#41960 - 12/17/08 11:31 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Honestly, it is hard to tell what sound like from click or clunk.
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#41961 - 12/18/08 07:07 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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If your feeling it in turns it could be an inner tie rod end which probably wasn't replaced or a CV joint.

Tie rods don't usually make enough contact to feel them. Stearing usually gets sloppy before you hear or feel them.
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#41962 - 12/18/08 09:26 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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They told me it was an accorian boot when it moves it is making a noise. We did lube it, it is not unsafe & to replace the boots would be around $250-300. The technician said if it was his vehicle. He would not spend the money on it.

I guess I will let it slip because it is just winter beater.
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#41963 - 12/18/08 09:51 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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I hate when my boots make a clicking noise! j/k

did they replace the inner tie rods? if those are worn it may start making some noise.

the BOOT is not going to make noise, or produce a "clicking feeling" come on, a rubber boot???

next time you take your car in for squeaky brakes, they will say its the tire.......

anyway, without driving it or looking at it in person, its hard to know whats going on with it. Maybe its too minor to bother with, but I still do not buy that its a boot....

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#41964 - 12/18/08 10:07 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Originally posted by palsut:
They told me it was an accorian boot when it moves it is making a noise. We did lube it, it is not unsafe & to replace the boots would be around $250-300. The technician said if it was his vehicle. He would not spend the money on it.

I guess I will let it slip because it is just winter beater.
That sounds more like the CV joint boot not a tie rod boot.
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#41965 - 12/18/08 10:24 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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My summer car have cv joint boot problem but it was already repaired. That's suck if my winter beater have same problem. I guess no big deal and I will used that click noise.

Yes, I think they replaced inner tie rod in May 2008.
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#41966 - 12/18/08 10:32 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Sounds like typical dealership BS to me; rubber boots don't click. :rolleyes: Could be CV joints, inner tie rods, steering rack, or maybe an intermediate steering shaft problem.
I know you would rather fix it under warranty, but I would get it checked out by a repair shop that won't give you BS stories... wink
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#41967 - 12/18/08 10:35 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Yeah but this dealership is 3/4 miles from me. Other shop is like 4 miles ahead. I live alone. I hate to walk home lol. I'm thinking install hitch on winter beater that I removed my summer car during gt/p rear bumper block it. Then ride the bike to home for fast way. I will do that next year if I want to fix it.
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#41968 - 12/18/08 11:22 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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shops will usually give you a ride.
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#41969 - 12/18/08 11:29 AM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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lol I don't want ride.

When my car was on repair like 2-3 years ago. This guy in his new dodge truck is driving crazy to my apt. He taillgate this car. Brake hard to stop. He is not wearing seat belt (I heard warning light keep beep beep beep but he just ingore it) and hard turn. F**k that... I walk instead ride with dangerous driver wink
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#41970 - 12/18/08 12:18 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Sounds like typical dealership BS to me; rubber boots don't click. [Roll Eyes] Could be CV joints, inner tie rods, steering rack, or maybe an intermediate steering shaft problem.
I know you would rather fix it under warranty, but I would get it checked out by a repair shop that won't give you BS stories... [Wink]
i was thinking "intermediate shaft" too but I couldn't remember the name of that part, lol. you could definitely feel the "click" if that was bad. but it would only be one time per turn, more so when turning the steering wheel from left to right, or right to left.

inner tie rod would also be a one click per turn, and again more so when changing from left to right.

if it is a constant clicking, but only while turning, then CV joint is bad.

I would also say to have a 2nd shop to check it over.

I would hate to see a shop mis diagnose a CV clicking as a rubber boot...
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#41971 - 12/18/08 12:22 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Haha, can't argue about the poor driving. I would still take the ride versus walking, as long as YOU have your seatbelt on, not much bad can happen.
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#41972 - 12/21/08 02:04 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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It is starting getting away little bit. I guess lube thing help for whatever they put.
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#41973 - 12/21/08 02:10 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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Originally posted by Zalfrin:
Haha, can't argue about the poor driving. I would still take the ride versus walking, as long as YOU have your seatbelt on, not much bad can happen.
No comment..... no
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#41974 - 12/21/08 02:17 PM Re: tie rod repair from dealership question *update*
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oh about ride lol

Nah, I rather walk to home better than get into wreck with bad driver. Not all seat belt help. If he goes like 75-80 mph then I'm dead. His dodge truck have very poor star accident rating so that's why I freak out to hang on for my dear life lol
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