i blew a bunch of carb spray in the TB, while running cleaned ou the carbon build up.

i replaced the TPS, and the IAC i cleaned the inner port where of the IAC goes with carb spray, the only thing i can conjure up is the ECU. or the TB needs a rebuild or somthing, mabey somthing is blocking the butterfly from going down, but the butterfly is pretty well shut.


i tryed calling about a possible ECU issue but ZZP's phone was busy everytime i called.

There is now way the PCM can cause air to flow into the engine to the extent you're experiencing. Think about it, something has to physically be opening to allow a ton of air in. I don't think the IAC can even open up big enough to allow enough air to achieve 5k rpms.

You can verify the throttle body is closed when the linkage hits its stop.

as far as i can see and feel, is there a way to check other than that?

i was also told tro take off the map plug and see what happens.. im not near the car, need time to relax from allmost dying 8 times lastnight.

so ill check tomorow.. but i didnt think it would do anything except bog the car down.

Things I can think of off the top of my head to check for in no particular order...

Throttle cable
Throttle plate
Cruise Control cable
IAC
Vaccuum leaks(need to check gasket mating surfaces as well as hoses)
MAF
TPS Sensor (make sure it's not holding the throttle plate open)


Chico: yes there should be a limiter for park/neutral around 4k on a stock pcm, but I don't know if ZZP raises that in their aftermarket pcms.

To let that ammount of air into the engine, maybe something is messing with the Cruise Control? Is there a way to d/c it and see if the problems stop?

That reminds me. wayward CC could do it as well. Pull the CC fuse and see what happens.

The CC disconnects real easy from the throttle linkage. Just open the throttle for slack and push the end of it away from the cable, it just pops off.

Thats right I forgot about that, I was thinking to d/c the electrical, but hey, that works perfect!

Thats why i love mechanical stuff. You can SEE whats going on. And its so much easier

you are going to laugh....

i dont have cruse control, and if i do ive never seen it...

i chked my codes,

p0122 "bad tps or cpu" and since i replaced the tps i dont see how this could be the tps, i made a phone call to zzp, they are going to call me back..

now i did have somone tell me that it may be a crack in the intake manifold or i may have lifted it off the head, so its sucking in more air then the cpu compensates for the extra air comming in....

heres a question i have 2 cables going to the throttle linkage would that be an indication that i may have had CC at one point in time or somthing?

You have a GTP, you have cruise control. Do you mean yours doesn't work or what?

Yes, two cables going to the throttle body: one is throttle, the other is cc. The cc one has a plastic clip that attaches it. The throttle cable has a metal T that loops into the linkage.

ok wtf!

i just looked, i have cruze control!
but i dont anything in the inside of the car electronics and what not.

im disconecting it now!

The control for the cruise should be on your turn signal switch.

nope not there