I wish I hadn't blown so much money on my M90 setup. Once I finish this build up, I will be doing some form of a turbo build.

zzp'z BB t67 is only and extra 400 with there stattma kit im consedering the BB cause i dont want to have to wait till almost 4k for boost. i do want lag so i can cruise without throwing down alot of torque.

yes im going to gasket match my heads once i get the turbo and when i can afford it get zzp's custom heads, but before i drop that much money on heads i need to rebuild the block so the crank can handle the boost and rebuild the tranny so i dont grenade it.

i just hope i can turn down the T67 enough to save my tranny

lmao building your bottom end is dumb. No offense but it really is.

ZZP's builds are stock bottom ends.

Most people are running stock bottom ends on high hp builds. I know of 8 or 9 400whp + who have never opened up there bottom end. The only real upgrades are L32 rods which aren't really that much better. And for pistons we have diamond forged but still the stockers are fine. The main killer of Pistons is KR.

You don't need heads I was just asking. I will push 500whp on stock heads and bottom end dude. Our bottom ends are freaking awesome stock dude.

The only weak point on our cars is the trans. If you stay under 10psi your trans should be ok. Mine lasted a long time but mine was a trooper from the factory. To handle over 450whp you need a 1" GMR chain with other supporting mods. So if you buy a built trans your looking around $4k for your trans if you want to push your goals.

Or buy a semi built trans and watch your 7/8ths chain stretch. lol

I will be running another stocker and just roll off the line and pray it lasts more then a few months.

You're worried about the stock crank? lol. You need to do some more reading dude. Everything in the block is fine. Worry about the tranny.

huh guess ive read wrong but on my higher compression ill only be able to handle 10psi intercooled if ive been told right

and yes im talking to tripleedgeperformance about a tranny too

If your wanting to get your heads done I can fix you up with a good deal ,and do'nt think my work is some handyman with a dremel I guarentee you will think these heads are a piece of art built to your needs for under $500.Chico (pops)

Ok buddy I ran 17psi I/C on my stock L36 block with no issue. I will run 18-20psi I/C with no issue and if I want more Ill throw meth and timing at it.

You have loads of research to do dude loads lol.

And chico's work is spot on professional. If I ever do my heads he is who I will be sending them to!

ok sounds good do you know how much intercooled boost i can put to a L36 with my mods listed

and whats the minimum boost on a T67

There is no such thing as minimum boost on a turbo.

That MAF is killing you if you go turbo. It was a really dumb mod for a turbo setup. So a little more than 10 psi would register.

The bottom end alone should take 18psi on pump gas. Maybe 20 but idk yet. I will be running meth if I want to run more boost. Its not always worth adding more boost and pulling timing. Usually it is but not always.

You will need either a mini AFC or an LT1 maf or a modded ZZP maf.

Do you know what a wastegate is? A blow off valve? PCV? Air Fuel Ratio?

I'm not trying to be a dick but how can you decide to go into this extreme of a build without knowing what you're getting into?

Look if I just tell you everything I'm hurting you more then helping. You need to look stuff up so that you learn it.

yes i know what all those are i didnt know that my maf wouldnt be able to read the boost

apparently there is a minimum boost for a boost controler and im trying to figure out what that level is and im asking you guys and zzp at the same time as im doing research. im trying to learn all this and i will learn my future build completly b4 i buy anything. ive done enough of that already for instance i sould of got a L26 UIM and HV3 instead of my L36 HV3.

ok i think i just answered one of my questions i can run lower than 10psi boost if i do not use a boost controler is this correct?

what i dont understand is how the MAF wont read over 10psi? i know you have to adjust the MAF tables in the pcm other than that im confused how the LT1 is so different than the LQ4

Obviously you don't know what a wastegate is or else you would know without a boost controller your run off whatever spring is inside the wastegate. If its a 9 then you run 9psi off the spring etc.

A wastegate dumps exhaust before it can reach the turbine housing so it controls how much exhaust spins the turbine. No wastgate is as much boost as the turbo can push.

A boost controller controls how much vac is allowed to the wastegate.

I believe the LQ4 is higher than 10 I was just saying the hertz is less than stock. LT1 reads higher.

I didn't mean to sound jerky earlier Ill help you as much as I can but I am not an expert lol

i did know what the waste gate and boost controller was i just had a brain fart and didnt connect the two on how they regulated the boost.

and even if the LQ4 maf has a lower hertz range cant you just change the MAF Tables in the pcm.

or does the LT1 have a larger AND higher hertz range?

You need to scale them with a mini afc etc.

ok ill make i have that too