Ok new thread how bout 97-03 GPs vs the seventies GTOs. I'm lookin at my next project when I retire in 7 years and I was thinkin of a pre 73 convertable GTO. Now theres a comparo for ya!!

if we are talkin totally stock then i say that the GTO all the way up till 1970 would win even with the smallest motor (400cid) right?

the 1973 GTO was just a purely cosmetic jobber that had a (350 cid) and no gearing what so ever.

all the goats imo were good looking machines but the 1971 GTO with its extended nose ala (97-03 gt/gtp) was the best looking one to me..

i second that 4 T 8 states, the goat has the advantage

I'm talkin stock for stock. That includes stock rubber. I'd think that given the tire technology of 70-71 that the GTO used is the biggest disadvantage. In that scenario I'd put money on the 97-03 GTP. Now put modern rubber on the GTO now that's a different story.

1970 GTO judge with all the goodies, int/ext, vs 1997 GTP with all the goodies, int/ext, since ive have not heard or seen a GTP without a/c.

heads up i think it be close but the goat should win even though the goat is heavier..

Take it from somebody that owns an A body. The GTP will drive circles around the Goat. You can get an A body to handle like a Vette. There is a kit that lets you swap a C4 suspension into an A body for about $4-5 grand. Been looking into it for mine. But a stock Goat will not beat a GTP with mods.

Man I love the body style on those A bodies. The Olds was a little too edgy for me though. But I want a vert.

I thought we were talking stock to stock, that`s why I say that the goat has the uperhand.

thats what i thought, imo , goat wil still win

source: hi-performance pontiac
car: 1969 gto JUDGE
0-60mph: 5.1sec
1/4 mile: 13.90 @107.0 mph
weight: 3503 h/t
power plant: 400 cid ram air-4
trans: auto
rear gear: 3.90
horsies: 370 @ 5500 rpm
torque: 445ft/lb @ 3900

pretty dam respectable for a car with old tire technology, dont you think and these #`s are froma stock goat.

This week sometime on SpeedTV, american muscle car Tv show picked 8 of the old classic muscle cars and ran them in a competition, slalom, 1/4 mile, burrnout, etc etc. All cars were stock as they rolled off the showroom floor including the stock size and type bias ply tires.
They had a 69 GTO Judge, 400 cid Ram Air III and on stock bias ply tires it ran 14.0 at about 94 mph I believe.

a stock GTP wont keep up.

ahh found it

Autorotica: Muscle Car Shootout
During the one-hour special scheduled to debut this summer on SPEED, muscle cars from each of the major manufacturers will battle against each other, renewing some of the old rivalries. The competitors include:

• 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
• 1969 AMX 390 Go Package
• 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
• 1969 Hurst Oldsmobile 442
• 1970 LS6 Chevelle SS
• 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429
• 1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger

Performance will depend on the manufacturers’ differences as each muscle car will use the same fuel and the same brake materials as well as run on the same brand tires as originally equipped.


SCHEDULE - All Times Eastern & Subject To Change

Show Date
From Dream Car Garage Fri, Aug 13 5:00PM
From Dream Car Garage Sun, Sep 5 8:00PM
From Dream Car Garage Fri, Sep 10 8:00PM

The 69 mustang won by one point over the 70 LS6 Chevelle. hemi challenger was last because of a busted clutch, GTO finished middle of the pack, barely

Stock for stock The GTP looks as if it'll put up a pretty good fight against a 400cid motor.

agreed, but put radials or something better than the old skinny bias ply tires and I bet those times would improve a good bit.

Well talking stock for stock... I want my 6 disk CD changer and my HUD and... and..

Now performance you see how the GTO runs a high 13s and a GTP runs mid-high 14s.. that is a no brainer. But handling I bet the GTP would win and ride comfort also. And gas milage. Fuel Injection Rules.

My 02 worth is I would rather buy a new GTO and fix it up... would go faster, handle and ride better and give you all the modern day creature comforts like a FM radio

Like I said before Just comparin cars from different eras to each other now. So if your gonna add new tech rubber to the GTO why don't ya change the rear end to a 2.94 like the GTPs have?