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#55967 - 09/12/07 07:51 PM is it hurting my engine?
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Well "it" is my exhaust....i didn't think that it would effect my motor or anything but that first shop i took it to to get my exhaust fixed said that how my exhaust is is really hurting my motor..i thought he was just trying to scare me into getting it fixed there for 450 bucks. But today i noticed she's not running well at all...i first noticed it this morning at a stoplight bein generous with my right foot...it seemed like it was missing. Then on my way home from work getting on the interstate under half accelleration it did it again. I'm getting my exhaust done this weekend(i finally have the money again) and if it's still doign it i'll try my MAF sensor, is there anything else it could be? is my exhaust REALLY hurting my motor? any input would be great...

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#55968 - 09/12/07 08:00 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Could be a converter going bad...good excuse as any to start modding... wink
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#55969 - 09/12/07 08:06 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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What do you mean by exhaust? There is alot from the exhaust manifolds all the way back to the tips. I suppose the guy is talking about the CAT and possibly the Ubend.
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#55970 - 09/12/07 08:07 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Um, for $450, you could order an aftermarket exhaust. I'd get another price quote, that's too high, even for a custom job. What is wrong with the exhaust?
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#55971 - 09/12/07 08:18 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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well my exhuast is apparently custom...its just a 3 inch pipe from the cat back, no u-bend, but its rusting off and has rust holes all throughout it...then it goes to the stock y-pipe, thats what he said was hurting it because it's "choking" the motor and he said it was bad to not have a u-bend :rolleyes: ...the problem is just when i get on it it stutters...its done it before and was the MAF, i just cleaned it so i may be in need of another cleaning i hope...

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#55972 - 09/12/07 08:21 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Unless the stock "y" has a cat sleeping in it, then that isn't a problem. It could just be leaking there, and that would just make it loud. I would run new with a new cat and 2.5-3" back with a new y pipe and do as you want with keeping or replacing the mufflers.
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#55973 - 09/12/07 08:27 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Your car will not stumble with an open exhaust. I briefly did test runs with my car with a glasspack slapped on after the headers. It ran fine. Rusting through of the exhaust makes it louder, it doesn't cause running issues unless there is a blockage. Look for your problem elsewhere.
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#55974 - 09/12/07 08:40 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Guess my post, saying the same thing, wasn't helpful??
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#55975 - 09/12/07 08:47 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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you guys are the men...sorry hopefully no hard feelings... cheers

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#55976 - 09/12/07 09:06 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Don't go back to that exhaust shop. no
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#55977 - 09/12/07 09:09 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Quote:
Originally posted by 20gtp02:
Guess my post, saying the same thing, wasn't helpful??
What post confused laugh
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#55978 - 09/12/07 09:14 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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mine was a little laggy and it turned out to be MAF which is the only thang that has gone wrong so far, (knock on wood) i ordered a used one from ed morad off ebay and came with a 3month warranty, put her in and no issues yet.. i did try cleaning it but that didnt help so thats why i got one from ed for 50$ shipped!
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#55979 - 09/12/07 09:17 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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I'm gonna clean then MAF sensor tomorrow during my lunch break and see what happens...hopefully she'll clear back up...

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#55980 - 09/12/07 10:10 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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if that guy said not having a u-bend was a bad thing, it's obvious that he didn't know what he was talking about.

steer clear of that shop.

btw... I had my catback fully custom fabricated for $230, so the price they quoted you is a rip off
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#55981 - 09/12/07 10:13 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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dude, you can do so much more with 450 bucks.
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#55982 - 09/13/07 12:46 AM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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I got my exhaust for 400 with custom tips and a 3" pipe from the cat back with a res delete. It was fairly reasonable. I wish I had the bora exhaust with a 3" DP and no cat but we cant all get what we want.................... for now! I am saving up and modding my car to hell lol.
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#55983 - 09/13/07 01:06 AM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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When my exhaust was leaking badly the car was definitely sluggish, loud, and dangerous in stand-still traffic (I think I lost some brain function) but the engine still ran fine. Prices for the exhaust job in my area of CT were so high (even the "custom" shops) that I ordered the Dynomax catback system and I couldn't be happier. I saved $$$ and the car sounds and responds great now! Find a reliable & cheap custom shop or spend the money on an aftermarket exhaust. I did and now I've got the modding bug.
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#55984 - 09/14/07 12:27 AM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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i went to another mom and pop shop today...the guy gave me a better qoute..150 bucks, but thats just for a 2.25 inch pipe for the cat to the y...seems like everytime i go to a shop they look at the three inch pipe there and say..."WTF..who would put a 3" pipe on THIS car!?!?!?" kinda pisses me off...but i think i'm gonna have him do it...but with a 2.5" pipe...or should i go 3" again?
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#55985 - 09/14/07 12:41 AM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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3" on a GTP with no res or muffs sounds sick as heck.

Every GP I see at the track (rare) they are running 3" straight pipe and usually cat-less.

Very loud and throaty. ALMOST V8 like. ALMOST!

Personally, if 2.5" can be gotten for under $200, I'd go for it. I payed $250 for my 2.5" cat-back with no rez. I even had them leave the muffler on with clamps so I can take it off for the strip.

I'm considering taking it off tomorrow and just putting some spare 2.5" pipe on the end. I'm curious to see how it sounds. wink
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#55986 - 09/14/07 12:46 AM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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yeeeuck. Keep these nasty sounding exhausts quiet. We should all be hearing our SC's louder than anything else! Sorry NA-ers.
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#55987 - 09/14/07 12:10 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuulmusic:
yeeeuck. Keep these nasty sounding exhausts quiet. We should all be hearing our SC's louder than anything else! Sorry NA-ers.
x2. a no muffler setup with no cat=ewww

Just go 2 1/2inch pipe with some sort of muffer on it
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#55988 - 09/14/07 05:20 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Originally posted by lonezergling:
3" on a GTP with no res or muffs sounds sick as heck.

Very loud and throaty. ALMOST V8 like. ALMOST!
Not in the least... what planet are you from?
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#55989 - 09/14/07 06:06 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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There is a guy I know at GLD running 3" straight pipe. I've seen/heard that set-up first hand.

He didn't even have a 3.4" pulley on it yet either, totally stock although I'm not sure about his manifolds, those may have been PEMs.
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#55990 - 09/14/07 07:27 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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i got it fixed today...put in 2.5" pipe from the cat back left my muffs(stock) for only 150...would have been 120 but i'm a nice guy and told him he said 150 yesterday... :rolleyes: anyhow...it sounds SO much better than that rotting off piece i had before...i can actually hear: A)My supercharger, B) my intake sucking(at idle) C) the radio, and best of all i'm not goin def. while driving!

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#55991 - 09/14/07 07:45 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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Did you replace the cat, or did cleaning the MAF solve your drivability problem?
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#55992 - 09/15/07 12:47 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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haven't gotten around to cleaning the maf...i threw codes last night and my car was running like crap, AZ checked the codes and said cyclinder 3 misfire...i'm about to go out and check the plugs/wires and clean the MAF...hopefully that'll do it...

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#55993 - 09/15/07 01:24 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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If you cleaned the maf once before, I'd just go and get a new one and be done with it....
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#55994 - 09/15/07 02:26 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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don't buy new... too expensive, get a used one from Ed Morad, he sells them for like $45, and i believe he gives a 3 or 4 month warranty on them
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#55995 - 09/15/07 08:28 PM Re: is it hurting my engine?
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yea, when in doubt, shop morad
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