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#6654 - 05/15/09 06:04 PM Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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Alright, I went out there today and checked everything out.

All vac lines are intact and were checked with carb cleaner. All wires soundly secured and none are damaged.


Here's what happened while I was there. We took the car out, beat the piss out of it, didn't die out at all.

Took it out again later, went onto the highway. Then for no apparent reason while CRUISING, there was a sudden jerk and the motor was dead. All the dummy lights came on like when you key the car on, and the rpm gauge was falling from about 1200rpm back to zero as we coasted under zero power to the side of the highway.

Tim did not goose it or anything. He was cruising at the speed limit, not accelerating or decelerating, then when it happened, the car jerked and the motor was off.


From what I can tell, if it were the fuel pump the motor would at least sputter or hesitate or something. This is completely binary, the motor is running fine and then in an instant, it's off.

I think it's got the be the Ignition Control Module. Cutting off all spark in a moment is the only way to kill a motor that quickly.

I mean, it dies so fast that the tranny doesn't have time to disengage. That's why it jerks. In that split second after the motor dying, it engine brakes the car until the tranny disengages.
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#6655 - 05/15/09 11:36 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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Go pay a shop to diagnosis this, But for those mods. They might not touch it lol

At this point, I would pay someone to diagnosis, Even though we all hate paying a shop, Somethings need to be done.
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#6656 - 05/16/09 01:03 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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The ICM wiring has to be cut. Whether it be the cam or crank, something isn't right with that. Do not pay a shop to look at the same wires you should.
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#6657 - 05/16/09 01:26 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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Corey I checked em. The wiring was run down there behind the coil pack bracket, like it should be.

Felt all the way down to the cam sensor, the wires are prestine and there's no possibility of them coming in contact with the belts.

Couldn't really check the crank sensor and wiring because all of that is behind the balancer and out of sight unless the car is on a lift. But everything else is checking out.


On a side note, anybody got the new AeroForce gauges? Tim's IACs were reading like 5600-6400 and cruising IACs were like 16400.

My IAC reads 20 at idle and like 50 cruising.
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#6658 - 05/16/09 02:07 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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There is a shield that goes around the balancer that might be gone/not on right that has allowed the crank sensor wire to get mangled.

I would take off the balancer and look.
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#6659 - 05/16/09 07:15 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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was the engine doing what the tach showed? If the tach was doing it's own thing I'd suspect the CPS is bad. No signal from the CPS no ignition. The intermitant part could be once the sensor is warm it fails. That's why it can set for a while and fire up and run fine then poof!
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#6660 - 05/16/09 08:55 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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the curse of the red cars has strunken again
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#6661 - 05/16/09 10:08 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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this started happening right after i had the tune at ZZP. Never before did any of this happen.

I really need to know what to do because I need the car.
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#6662 - 05/16/09 10:50 AM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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well if it happened right after zzp tune that means they jacked something up... take it to the sourse of the problem
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#6663 - 05/16/09 12:22 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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Yes I have the newer aeroforce and it reads iac like that, not sure how to correlate it to what you should be seeing.
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#6664 - 05/16/09 05:20 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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#6665 - 05/16/09 05:23 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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Delete that p0101 code ASAP, That sounds ridiculous how much money he tried to throw at it ? like 2 MAF's ? woah, but Go for that, he seemed to have the identical issue.
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#6666 - 05/16/09 05:29 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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i need someone with a tuner to come HERE!!! lol lonezerg has one but his laptop is broken.
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#6667 - 05/16/09 05:32 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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I figure boosten would have one....

Myabe some one could send a laptop/PT through the mail ? Its a stretch but you need this.

Is this car you DD ?
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#6668 - 05/16/09 05:40 PM Re: Tim (01GT) needs lots of help on this one.
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boosten does not have a tuner. Yes this car is a my DD, but while its down I am using my grandpa's 07 ford ranger.
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