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#67360 - 07/01/05 04:27 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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There's no difference in the detergents in regular or premium. It can actually hurt the engine if you use a higher octane than the car requires. High octane is NOT better gas, it simply has more chemicals that resist explosion.
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#67361 - 07/02/05 12:03 AM Re: knock retard on my GT
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#67362 - 07/02/05 12:30 AM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Originally posted by TastyBake:
Some info on gas.
http://www.pontiacstreetperformance.com/psp/Mythsgas1.html
Thats way more than I ever wanted to know about octane.

Interesting though.
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#67363 - 07/02/05 01:18 AM Re: knock retard on my GT
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well i ran her as dry as i could and filled up with some 93. drove for 10 minutes, and checked KR at WOT and got 5-6 degrees. i'm going to assume that the computer just needs to learn the gas or something? i'll give it some more time.
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#67364 - 07/02/05 04:12 AM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Also, if you replaced the PCM with a reprogrammed one, you have to do a CASE learn so the PCM knows where the crankshaft is positioned.

If you just had it reprogrammed, then you don't need to do this.

Yea, the computer will need a few miles to get used to the new octane. Check it after a few more days. If you are still getting knock, you probably want to upgrade the exhaust to free up some back pressure.
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#67365 - 07/02/05 12:16 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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still getting 5.8 degrees at wot on the way home from work this afternoon.
what worries me is that the change from 87 to 93 didn't change ANYTHING yet. banghead
waiting patiently....
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#67366 - 07/02/05 02:51 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Did you have the U bend replaced? Won't help much but it may take it down a degree.
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#67367 - 07/02/05 03:48 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Put the stock PCM back in and see what kind of KR you read.

confused
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#67368 - 07/02/05 11:05 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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ill be doing the ubend and exhaust tips eventually...soon as i find some tips.

i'm doing that m90 SS conversion as soon as zzp releases that kit. i hope i dont have a billion degrees of KR then! i wont be using the intense pcm, as it says not to. it looks like dhp or stock pcm for that.

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#67369 - 07/09/05 10:48 AM Re: knock retard on my GT
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well after 8 days of running 93ish, it didn't help... its actually worse.
now its giving me 6.5 degrees KR!

probly throw the stock pcm in after an upcoming trip (not me driving). anyhow, that doesn't seem like a solution...i like my intense!
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#67370 - 07/14/05 02:40 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Any update on this? I am questioning the AeroForce reading.

See if someone else has a scan tool. Surprised to see a PCM do THIS to a car.

Plus if you put in super and you are getting more, then there is something wrong with the car itself such as plugs, fuel filter, dirty throttle, e.t.c.

Downpipe may help.
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#67371 - 07/14/05 04:06 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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You lucky asses

There's only ONE station that sells 92...everybody else has 91 .. And it sucks

Somebody said AutoZone or someone will Scan for KR for free??
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#67372 - 07/14/05 04:36 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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I don't know if they'll scan for KR because you need to have it on the road or a dyno but they do scan for trouble codes.
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#67373 - 07/14/05 04:37 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Originally posted by Kwik Wun:
You lucky asses

There's only ONE station that sells 92...everybody else has 91 .. And it sucks

Somebody said AutoZone or someone will Scan for KR for free??
That's because of your altitude. At that elevation 92 is like 94 for us here at sea level.
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#67374 - 07/14/05 06:27 PM Re: knock retard on my GT
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Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwik Wun:
[b] You lucky asses

There's only ONE station that sells 92...everybody else has 91 .. And it sucks

Somebody said AutoZone or someone will Scan for KR for free??
That's because of your altitude. At that elevation 92 is like 94 for us here at sea level. [/b]
yup.
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