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#68349 - 12/23/08 11:23 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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That concept wouldn't work with what I'm doing with the case.
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#68350 - 12/23/08 11:27 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Oh, ok. Would've been neat to run two cores.
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#68351 - 12/23/08 11:50 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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I would love to run 2 fullsize cores, but aside from the cost I would need to run 2 pumps, fit 2 rads and route 2 sets of hoses.

The hardest part would be fitting another rad somewhere. I could maybe remove the fans behind the rad and mount it there.

I don't know of anyone who runs 2 fullsize cores. Especially on a turbo. I wonder if it would be effective.
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#68352 - 12/24/08 01:41 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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why would you need 2 rads, couldnt u just use 1 fullsize rad and t into it?? because your car would run esp warm running 2 rads or why dont you just get like a ZZP FMHE, randall marc (3800gtv6) on got3800 has one he was trying to sell why dont u use that plus a vw rad, becuase the FMHE sits lower and wouldnt cover up the entire vw rad
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#68353 - 12/24/08 02:05 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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How much does he want for it? I could do that.

but I would need another pump and more importantly another core.

If I did that, I would have 3 pumps. lol. That would be noisy. I might mount them in the trunk.
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#68354 - 12/24/08 02:16 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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65 i think but pm him for sure, i got his ## so if you want it txt me
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#68355 - 12/24/08 02:25 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Alright, I might get it but I doubt it will be for a second core. I just don't have the money to throw around for a second core that may not be very benficial. I'll never get the temps below ambient, so I could have 3 i/c cores on their and it might not do anything more than cool it another 5-10 degrees from the first core it goes through. Definitely not worth another 500 bucks.

As much as I would love to do it, the gains just wouldn't be worth it.

I might get the FMHE instead of using the rad that I currently have.
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#68356 - 12/24/08 02:29 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Connect their water lines in series (in line with eachother) The first core would be colder. Only one pump and one FMHE needed.
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#68357 - 12/24/08 02:39 PM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Having 1 core 'OUT' connected to the next core 'IN' is the only way I can see it working with 1 pump and rad without losing pressure in the system and I don't think that would be very beneficial.

Most of the cooling would have already taken place in the first core. The second core would only cool another 5-10 degrees from the time it leaves the first core. I can't justify another $500 core for 5-10 degrees.

Having 2 i/c would be more of a novelty thing. Having w2a and A2A would be better but even the fastest cars aren't dual intercooled, it seems almost ricey to me.

If that FMHE is only 65 bucks I may scoop that up because my rad I have no isn't the greatest and those FMHE don't require any cutting to the hood latch.
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#68358 - 12/26/08 11:01 AM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Yeah the in-to-out setup is what I was thinking. Good point for $500 though. You know you can get external enclosed cores for under $150 though. My opinion is that the core underneath the M90 is not large enough to cool to the water supply's potential.

:-p or mount two FMHEs with 2 cores.

pump -> core1 -> FMHE1 -> core2 -> FMHE2 -> pump
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#68359 - 12/26/08 11:40 AM Re: W2A or A2A for my turbo?
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuulmusic:
Yeah the in-to-out setup is what I was thinking. Good point for $500 though. You know you can get external enclosed cores for under $150 though. My opinion is that the core underneath the M90 is not large enough to cool to the water supply's potential.

:-p or mount two FMHEs with 2 cores.

pump -> core1 -> FMHE1 -> core2 -> FMHE2 -> pump
That is a good idea. But like was said, temps will never get below ambient. It really comes down to how close will ONE fullsize core bring my temps to ambient.

How much will another $500 core really drop the temps? With the added expense on another core I could just get the A2A and not have to worry about mounting 2 rads. Not to mention fuel rails. Then trying to find right length intercooler bolts and even possibly running into hood clearance issues.

S/C'ed guys run ONE fullsize core into the 10/11/12's running around 15 pounds. Now you may be right that the core might not be thick enough to get the most potential out of the w2a system, but it's the largest core available.

Also, a turbo will push the same boost as an M90 but at lower temps. More reason to believe that this core will be sufficient.
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