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#73793 - 01/07/09 04:15 PM OK, Stupid Question
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How do I check the level of my power steering fluid? I don't see it anywhere. withstupid
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#73794 - 01/07/09 04:21 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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WAY IN THE BACK..... I think there is a picture somewhere with it... on the left back of the engine reach your hand way down there and you will feel it... its a major PITA... whoever designed it was horrible, or hes laughing at us...
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#73795 - 01/07/09 04:22 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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#73796 - 01/07/09 04:26 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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you can see the resevoir to the left of pulleys 3 and 4
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#73797 - 01/07/09 04:32 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Its in a very convenient spot. Park on a level surface and pull the lid off.
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#73798 - 01/07/09 05:49 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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i used a squeeze bottle with PS fluid in it and squired it in lol. Threw that out though .

Was a pain but was worth it as it was almost empty.
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#73799 - 01/07/09 11:13 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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THink you can squeeze an eyesight line in there and shine a flash light down, and see the level.
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#73800 - 01/08/09 01:43 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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...

No wonder I couldn't find it. It's too bad someone complained about putting asterisks, cuz I feel like dropping the F-bomb right now. lol

Thanks guys, I will check it tomorrow.
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#73801 - 01/08/09 01:49 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Mine is pretty easy. :p You can see clearly it is on top of engine.



What is about GT engine? Same location as GTP engine?
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#73802 - 01/08/09 05:30 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Probably, since they are basically the same engine.
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#73803 - 01/08/09 11:33 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Yes, the 3.8 n/a and 3.8 s/c are in the exact same location
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#73804 - 01/08/09 11:40 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Sorry for the thred jack, but I have to say it....

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#73805 - 01/08/09 11:53 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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I think the 3.1 would have a hard time turning the wheels with a 12" rotor....


Sorry I had to say it...
You said that yesterday.

Now, today you said that from this pictures.

Serious, I think 3100 engine joke is offical over for now. I'm 100% sure that other members want it stop. It used be other member who make joke but now they stop doing that. Now, I have seen you doing thread jack about 3100 engine joke in 2 days in row. I know it is funny but they really want to stop and move on. I hope you understand.
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#73806 - 01/08/09 12:22 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by palsut:
What is about GT engine? Same location as GTP engine?
Yes.
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#73807 - 01/08/09 01:41 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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We understand Palsut, but you are the one that'll comment on a 3.8 engine thread and post up somethig about your 3.1 like your engine pic explaining how your power steering is on top, that doesn't help AceFighter out one bit!!!!
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#73808 - 01/08/09 04:14 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by 20gtp02:
We understand Palsut, but you are the one that'll comment on a 3.8 engine thread and post up somethig about your 3.1 like your engine pic explaining how your power steering is on top, that doesn't help AceFighter out one bit!!!!
dude, the one thing I learned about Palsut is to NEVER point out his faults or hypocracy. He wont listen anyway. Just let him rant to the air and try to return the thread to it's original direction.
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#73809 - 01/08/09 04:34 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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lol Only reason I did it cuz Palsut put that picture up and flaunted how the 3.1 has it at the top, and I know it gets under his skin when someone brings it up. No harm ment by it.
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#73810 - 01/08/09 05:13 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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It has nothing to do with 3100/3800 battle. I'm pretty much over with it. I know you would agree with that.

This thread is about steering location. My 3100 engine steering wheel location is on top of engine. 3800 supercharger engine is on buried behind. My question is where is GT N/A supercharger engine steering location that I'm curious? Then someone answer. I read. I'm about ready to tell them who answer my question to thank you until ifitwasnt4u kill this thread for stupid joke.

I mean come on it is over already. 2008 is official over. This is 2009. Move on guys. I'm pretty move on. If you want to make other joke then PM me. Please don't kill other people's thread. This thread is all about steering wheel location. I'm staying this topic.
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#73811 - 01/08/09 05:39 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by palsut:
I read. I'm about ready to tell them who answer my question to thank you until ifitwasnt4u kill this thread for stupid joke.
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#73812 - 01/08/09 06:07 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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[b]Sorry for the thred jack, but I have to say it....

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I laughed so friggin hard.
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#73813 - 01/08/09 06:12 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Guys, who knows, maybe someone with a 3100 with the same question will stumble across this thread in the future and Palsut's post will help them out.

I keep forgetting to check the fluid level before I drive, so I have to let the engine cool, but since it doesn't always make that noise, could it be something other than the fluid level? It does it occasionally when I come to a stop, but it's usually when I turn, if it does it.
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#73814 - 01/08/09 06:28 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by palsut:


What is about GT engine? Same location as GTP engine?
Correct me if I'm wrong but....
The GT engine has the same block as the GTP. The 3100 is a 60* block..... Two totally different engines, two different layouts for accessories.
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#73815 - 01/08/09 06:38 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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yep. 3400 and smaller were the 60* V6, while 3800-4300 were the 90* V6.
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#73816 - 01/08/09 07:12 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by Acefighter:
Guys, who knows, maybe someone with a 3100 with the same question will stumble across this thread in the future and Palsut's post will help them out.

I keep forgetting to check the fluid level before I drive, so I have to let the engine cool, but since it doesn't always make that noise, could it be something other than the fluid level? It does it occasionally when I come to a stop, but it's usually when I turn, if it does it.
I would say it is the power steering. u do have to wait for the engine to cool. it sucks how its under the heater hose. and next to the rear manifold
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#73817 - 01/08/09 09:10 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Guys, who knows, maybe someone with a 3100 with the same question will stumble across this thread in the future and Palsut's post will help them out.
I would help for 3100 owners but I can help to anything like we have same w-body example remove/install hood, bumper, and more etc. stuffs. I'm pretty good for all appearance stuffs.

I don't know lot of 3800 engine. I normally check my steering fluid to see how much fluid left I get. I don't know how about you (n/a 3800 & supercharger 3800). Reach all way to see how much fluid you get? Or what about remove right front tire and right fender liner to check fluid? Kind stupid idea but it could work I think?
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#73818 - 01/08/09 09:15 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Actually the cap has a dipstick on it.... No need for a visual into the reservior.
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#73819 - 01/09/09 04:33 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by palsut:
I don't know how about you (n/a 3800 & supercharger 3800). Reach all way to see how much fluid you get? Or what about remove right front tire and right fender liner to check fluid? Kind stupid idea but it could work I think?
There is a ton of crap going on back there. Its easier to just go from the top and unscrew it. It has a little plastic piece the goes into the reservoir that measures the fluid level.
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#73820 - 01/09/09 10:03 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Actually the cap has a dipstick on it.... No need for a visual into the reservior
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There is a ton of crap going on back there. Its easier to just go from the top and unscrew it. It has a little plastic piece the goes into the reservoir that measures the fluid level.
I checked mine and I have that too. I didn't know that lol
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#73821 - 01/09/09 10:48 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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When you turn, you pump fluid into the hydraulics - if it makes the noise during a turn but not always when the wheel is centered, your fluid is low.
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#73822 - 01/10/09 01:31 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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It was definitely low. I refilled it today, and I saw fluid spots on the ground where I parked at work. Gotta keep an eye on it, because it looks like I have a leak.

I know you can get fluid that is supposed to stop the leak - has anyone used it? What kind of results did you see?
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#73823 - 01/10/09 10:09 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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those quick fixes are rarely good for your car in the long run. Try to keep an eye on the fluid, have a shop look at the system and give you an idea on what it would cost, worst case, and save up to fix that. Please dont use a quick fix.
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#73824 - 01/11/09 02:25 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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That's exactly what I needed to know. lol Thanks
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#73825 - 01/11/09 02:36 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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I think there might have been a recall or service bulletin on certain steering racks. My buddy's steering on his 97 went funky and he took it to the dealer and they replaced the rack for free (last year).
Not that it would fix the leak if it were the hoses or connections...
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#73826 - 01/11/09 12:04 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Originally posted by Acefighter:
It was definitely low. I refilled it today, and I saw fluid spots on the ground where I parked at work. Gotta keep an eye on it, because it looks like I have a leak.

I know you can get fluid that is supposed to stop the leak - has anyone used it? What kind of results did you see?
i had that same issue... about 6 months later my rack and pinion seals blew out... might wanna find that leak to make sure its not ur rack and pinion going out...
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#73827 - 01/11/09 09:49 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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I don't think there was a recall. I took it in to get the recall for the engine fires done, and they told me they checked and that was the only recall work my car needed. I will get it checked out though.

It seems to be leaving spots, but not big ones, and my power steering tank is still just about full, so it's not leaking fast.
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#73828 - 01/12/09 07:58 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Early model GPs had a stearing rack recall.
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#73829 - 01/12/09 08:27 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question
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Let me rephrase. I don't think there was a recall that I am under, at least.
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#216203 - 10/01/11 09:08 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question [Re: HercMan(Rob)]
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Originally Posted By: HercMan(Rob)
Early model GPs had a stearing rack recall.

Late reply: Hey this morning I took car to the store and my first right turn it really got hard, left turns are fine, thought I was going to have to have it towed, but I made it home, jacked it up after work engine running and it seemed fine, right and left, lowered little at a time and turned wheel left and right and worked fine, wheels had a little movement top to bottom and side to side, test drive, little sloppy, sound like rack and pinion going, did hear clicking noise when turning wheel while in air but not while driving.
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#216412 - 10/18/11 01:11 PM Re: OK, Stupid Question [Re: grandprix38]
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Originally Posted By: grandprix38
Originally Posted By: HercMan(Rob)
Early model GPs had a stearing rack recall.

Late reply: Hey this morning I took car to the store and my first right turn it really got hard, left turns are fine, thought I was going to have to have it towed, but I made it home, jacked it up after work engine running and it seemed fine, right and left, lowered little at a time and turned wheel left and right and worked fine, wheels had a little movement top to bottom and side to side, test drive, little sloppy, sound like rack and pinion going, did hear clicking noise when turning wheel while in air but not while driving.


No responses, does that mean there is enough info out there, and all I have to do is search? Time is not on my side.
and how do you feel about this? would you buy it?
Say's lifetime warranty, so may as well give it a shot.

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#217348 - 02/25/12 05:13 AM Re: OK, Stupid Question [Re: Acefighter]
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HAHAHA! I had that same problem trying to find the power steering reservoir on my sister's Bonneville. It's definitely hidden! Lucky for me, that was before I got my GTP, so I knew where it was when I had to replace my steering rack outside on a cold day in the rain. I didn't need anything extra to piss me off that day...
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