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#83025 - 09/06/08 07:22 PM ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Hey Guys,

Is it normal for my car to have more KR with a modded pcm as opposed to a stock one? My car is basically stock except for a ZZP PCM, Gutted airbox w/ K&N filter, 605 plugs and 180 T-stat. The pcm has been on for over a week and I have more KR when I "get on it" than with the stock pcm kooky I have a 3" catless DP coming to me. Hopefully that helps with the KR.
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#83026 - 09/06/08 07:25 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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The timing is increased, so i can see this happening. I was not happy with my ZZP PCM. The downpipe will help out a lot. A cone filter will help too.
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#83027 - 09/06/08 07:54 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Originally posted by ordonez1307:
The timing is increased, so i can see this happening. I was not happy with my ZZP PCM. The downpipe will help out a lot. A cone filter will help too.
x2. I've heard bad things about their PCM's. get rid of that ubend and put an open cone to let the motor breathe, it will help alot.
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#83028 - 09/06/08 08:19 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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The DP is a catless bolt-on so it will have the ubend deleted. I was "trying" my best to keep this car stock. lol But I guess I'm just trying to make it more fuel efficient, yeah right!
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#83029 - 09/06/08 08:40 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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anything that helps the motor breath, intake or exhaust, increases MPG. the bigger dp and intake will improve MPG.
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#83030 - 09/06/08 08:50 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson:
anything that helps the motor breath, intake or exhaust, increases MPG. the bigger dp and intake will improve MPG.
negative. more air = more fuel = less mpg.
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#83031 - 09/06/08 08:54 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Actually the easier it breathes the more "efficient" the motor is. More bang for the buck. Requires fewer RPMs. My open cone netted me a 2mpg gain.
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#83032 - 09/06/08 09:53 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Theoretically, the high velocity TB I ordered should improve MPG too, right? That's kinda what I was assuming, not that it makes much difference.
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#83033 - 09/06/08 09:55 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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easier it breathes the better it is.
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#83034 - 09/07/08 12:22 AM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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Well part of the reason your getting more knock is because the ZZP is tuned for a mildly modded car,for an out of the box pcm ZZP's are not bad but from what most guys say if you have no way of tuning try Overkill's PCM he apparently tunes a little more individual than the others generic type tunes,What specifically did you want tuned out of your stock PCM?
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#83035 - 09/08/08 04:20 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
lbolta Offline
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I like the quicker shifts the modded pcm gives..along with the other benefits like speed limiter removal, fan turn-on etc.
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#83036 - 09/08/08 05:10 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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my 97 still just flashes 199 (km). so after that I dk how fast i'm going.
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#83037 - 09/09/08 10:57 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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You can get PCMs with stock timing.
DP should just about solve your problem, though.
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#83038 - 09/10/08 07:12 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
lbolta Offline
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How much louder will that catless DP make my car sound? I still have the stock resonator and mufflers.

Luis
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#83039 - 09/11/08 03:41 PM Re: ZZP PCM more KR than Stock PCM..??
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A bit louder. Tone will sound a little more raw. I like the idle much better. I won't even mention full throttle sound since most of us know it sounds crappy.
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