#83854 - 08/01/10 06:20 PM
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Should I invest in a scan gauge, or should I put forth money for a Wbody PCM, strut tower bar?
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#83855 - 08/01/10 06:38 PM
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Well since you have no under hood mods a scan gauge is really worthless, except checking DTC's and watching KR.
Go for some suspension mods, if you want a 10 times better tune than that garbage W body PCM come to Eagan.
I tuned someones PCM who had a top-swapped Monte with his "tuned" PCM from the W body store who set it up for a top swap
To say the least he maxxed out the KR values on my PT while the PCM trying to add over 20% fuel.
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#83856 - 08/01/10 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by jorgs_7: Well since you have no under hood mods a scan gauge is really worthless, except checking DTC's and watching KR.
Go for some suspension mods, if you want a 10 times better tune than that garbage W body PCM come to Eagan.
I tuned someones PCM who had a top-swapped Monte with his "tuned" PCM from the W body store who set it up for a top swap.
To say the least he maxxed out the KR values on my PT while the PCM trying to add over 20% fuel. Thanks jorgs, I'll stay away from the wbody PCM. I will def get the rear/front strut bar sometime. I just pulled trigger on a ZZP 3.6 pulley & a ZZP 3" Downpipe.
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#83857 - 08/01/10 08:55 PM
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Might wanna think about tossing a 180* Tstat in there too
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#83858 - 08/01/10 09:23 PM
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Already got a 180tstat in.
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#83859 - 08/02/10 12:46 PM
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Save and do a real mod. You're not really going to notice any of those 3.
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#83860 - 08/02/10 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by ordonez1307: Save and do a real mod. You're not really going to notice any of those 3. X2
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#83861 - 08/02/10 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisGT: Originally posted by ordonez1307: [b] Save and do a real mod. You're not really going to notice any of those 3. X2 [/b]Would the move of getting a 3" downpipe, and a 3.6 pulley call for a real mod? I'm going to end up having jorgs tune it at some point as well.
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#83862 - 08/02/10 08:59 PM
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Might be a little bit closer to come out my way for a tune, if you wanted.
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#83863 - 08/03/10 09:41 AM
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You'll notice the most with a 3.6 and a tune. Go headers at some point too.
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#83864 - 08/03/10 11:26 AM
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Headers and a 3.4 would be best. Save your pennies.
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#83865 - 08/03/10 11:40 AM
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Ben I still dont know why you sold those SD headers from Ebay a while back, that DP costs 1/2 as much.
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#83866 - 08/03/10 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by jorgs_7: Ben I still dont know why you sold those SD headers from Ebay a while back, that DP costs 1/2 as much. . They knicked the transmission case and I wasn't willing to chip it out the tranny case. I'm sure I would have had many leaks too. Downpipe is easy and if I can run a 3.6 on it i dont see why not.
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#83867 - 08/03/10 01:24 PM
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Because its not optimal. You will PROBABLY be able to run the 3.6 safely, but you could CERTAINLY run more timing using headers instead of just a downpipe.
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#83868 - 08/03/10 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Zalfrin: Because its not optimal. You will PROBABLY be able to run the 3.6 safely, but you could CERTAINLY run more timing using headers instead of just a downpipe. This is another reason why I insist on you getting a tune.
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