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#89160 - 07/27/04 04:02 PM KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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I havent installed them yet but i also got the plates to reduce the pogo for the top of the strut. Would Monroe struts be any better than the KYB gas ones?
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#89161 - 07/27/04 04:12 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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No, no no! KYB's, although they aren't really "performance" like everyone tends to think, will be worlds better than Monroes. I just talked to a KYB rep last week here at work, and got a pretty thorough description and brief presentation on the differences between them and the others. Monroe makes a good product, but I've seen them leak many times in recent years. KYB's are a little more expensive sometimes, but they are the best OEM type replacment shock or strut out there.
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#89162 - 07/27/04 04:17 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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I second that...KYB's are the best buy for the money.
I've always used KYB's on just about everything I've ever owned.
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#89163 - 07/27/04 04:33 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Alright then i feel like i made a good choice!

I bought the 4 cups that http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/mods.asp?modid=68 told me to.

and these mounting kits
http://www.partsamerica.com/SelectParts.asp?SourceArea=SHOP&PartType=1352&PTSet=A&Description=Shocks&SourcePage=PartTypes&SearchFor=Shock%2C+Mounting+Kits

i feel like that should do me good.
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#89164 - 07/27/04 05:28 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Show pics when it's done!
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#89165 - 07/27/04 09:26 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Those parts that you bought from gm should have been factory installed on all cars. As for the Pogo effect this will not completely eliminate but will make it a lot nicer. I second this Austin guy (sorry) get some pics when its done!!!!!
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#89166 - 07/28/04 08:33 AM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Alright! Alright! Alright! Your bending my rubber arm! I'll get some pictures when its done! :p
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#89167 - 07/28/04 09:57 AM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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I should also mention, don't rule out Gabriel either. I use the ACDelco branded shocks and struts here, which are basically re-packaged premium Gabriels, and have been very happy with them with no warranty issues at all in about 4 years.
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#89168 - 07/28/04 02:55 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Did they lower your car ? or still at normal ride height?
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#89169 - 07/28/04 03:07 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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It should lower it by about an inch to an inch and a half.
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#89170 - 07/29/04 02:34 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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No, no, no. I mean Adam S's "ACDelco branded shocks and struts" Did they lower his car?
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#89171 - 07/29/04 03:14 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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oops...
I'm new.
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#89172 - 07/29/04 03:21 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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I haven't installed those on my car; I meant that that's what I use here at work, and they've been great. They're purposely manufactured about 15% stiffer to compensate for worn springs, bushings, mounts, etc. that are most likely worn after about 50k. They don't effect ride height at all; they're just replacement struts. If you install new springs and mounts, that tends to correct ride height problems more that shocks or struts.
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#89173 - 07/29/04 04:27 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Has anyone come across running into more potholes than usual after the lowered suspension??? Hey, I live in Chicago and there are potholes. Not only that, but there are alos steep driveways to consider?

I am thinking about lowering my suspenion but then I thought about this?

Any suggestions or ideas towards a package?
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#89174 - 07/29/04 08:51 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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The rough roads and driveway entrances are what are keeping me from lowering mine. Well that and the cash involved :banging head:
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#89175 - 07/30/04 08:50 AM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
Well that and the cash involved :banging head:
I hear you. I had a set of Eibachs and had to sell them due to the cost of having them installed. The cost for labor was right over the $500 mark.
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ASCD SD hood, 17" Bullitts, Overkill PCM, 3.4" Pulley, NGK TR55IX, K&N 9" cone filter, JimmyC D/P, U-bend removed, Flowmaster 40 series, Hooker big bore tips with resonators, S/B brake lines, drilled/slot rotors, GMPP handling kit, KYB struts, F&R strut supports, HID's, LED's, 2.5" Air Dam, red GTP overlays on custom badges, white rear insert.
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#89176 - 08/02/04 05:56 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Its a pretty bad picture, It needs a cleaning.

I really do not have any pogo except when i back out of my driveway. Even then its not bad.
I think what people forgot to do is read the instructions eibach gives out and read the part that says to trim 20mm off of the front bump stops that go on the strut. People probably didnt do that and causes the strut to hit it and force it back the other way. (ie, pogo effect) Thats what im guessing
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#89177 - 08/02/04 08:24 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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TECHRON: How much did u spend on parts? and I was wondering how much did u lower your vehicle?
Do you scrape on every driveway entrance? I got the same year model and color as your. Thanks man.
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#89178 - 08/02/04 10:02 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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doesnt really scrape unless its a bad driveway. I paid $205 for the struts, all four, KYB GR-2. $132 for the Eibach's (I work at place where i get eibachs at cost) So maybe like $200 for you. and $30 for an alignment.
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#89179 - 08/02/04 11:00 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Quote:
Originally posted by techron:
doesnt really scrape unless its a bad driveway. I paid $205 for the struts, all four, KYB GR-2. $132 for the Eibach's (I work at place where i get eibachs at cost) So maybe like $200 for you. and $30 for an alignment.
132 cost on eibachs? you must be a direct dealer!!!!!
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#89180 - 08/03/04 08:31 AM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Looks good Tech, good job!
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#89181 - 08/03/04 09:37 AM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Nice very nice. As for the pogo bump stops don't stop or cause. It's the valving in the strut itself to dampen the springs. Lowering springs are stiffer which gives more "bounce" so you need a strut to dampen the "bounce" Stock struts aren't valved for stiffer springs and not many are for our cars. The things you installed help a bit but not for auto xrossing.
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#89182 - 08/12/04 12:03 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Mines lowered and I live in canada, where pot holes have their own address. No question the car looks better. The price you pay is a stiffer ride,(as in bone jarring/ CD skippin) more interior squeeks than a barrel full of mice. Would I go back? Well I I need to do is look at the car and the answer is..Nope.
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#89183 - 08/12/04 04:10 PM Re: KYB & Eibachs (updated w/pics!)
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Ive got a pretty steep driveway entrance but even after installing the GMPP koni kit, I dont scrape anything. No pogo either. Here are a few quick pics. Sorry for the dirty car but it rained all the way home :rolleyes:

Stock springs/shocks at about 30k miles Here emergency brake is prob on so the back may look higher. Not sure.


and after with GMPP springs/koni strut kit.


Here you can see the stock grill I painted light bronzemist (cant find dark bronzemist in spray) mad
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