I heard on World News Tonight ABC
that GM is considering dropping the
Pontiac Division. What can we do to
keep Pontiac going????

What can we do?

Nothing unless we have the cash to buy out the inventory.

But I think this is exactly what GM needs to do. Along with killing Buick, Hummer and Saturn. Chevy loses all the truck sales to GMC. GMC has a better rep with contractors and comfort then the Chevy. Chevy gets all the cars and vans and small cross overs. Caddillac keeps the luxury.

Pretty similar to what Toyota and Honda do now. GM has way too much internal competition to survive.

You make some weird posts, man.

THAT make my gp actaully worth something!!!! :p

Im sure it will because they hardly made any of them....

only the really special models of the GP will hold value later on. like the limited, or the 40th anniversary, pace cars.

if you have a regular old GT or GTP I wouldn't depend on my kids college funding on selling the GP in 15 years.

Cant we send e-mails to the top heads at GM or
get a letter writing campaign to save Pontiac?
Once Pontiac is gone its all over. Lets do
something positive to save Pontiac.

I doubt that we could
send an email that
would really impact the
head honcho's at GM. They
have bigger problems than to read
fan mail from Pontiac lovers.
They should worried about their pensions
and big ol' salaries. Cutting internal
competition, like Herc said, is what
they need to do. Why waste the money for two
almost identical molds?

I agree with R.S.
they wouldn't read
it if we sent it to them.
I think it would be good
if GM cut some brands
out of production.
This is sort of like
a Haiku, but not.

Here ya go: http://gmfactsandfiction.com/

besides GMC and Chevrolet, Pontiac is the next-best-selling division.

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_file...ctober_2008.pdf

LMMFAO!!! I can't stop laughing...
That's good right there...
I don't care who you are!!!
LOL

I wish GM would have kept the Grand Prix.
THe G8 is rear wheel drive. I need front wheel
drive for the snowy conditions.

why not
just get an
awd car?

youd be surprised at the traction control used nowadays.

Dang, I think I'm "bad luck" with car brand company.

When I have 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. The Oldsmobile went out of business. Now, I own 2 Pontiac Grand Prix. Now Pontiac is possible out of business.

I guess I need buy Ford so I might make Ford out of business?

I herd they're dropping SAAB as well.

Sad news. I agree with what I read on a different forum. Combine Buick and Pontiac in a more deluxe brand. Saab and Saturn could combined into a Euro-centric brand. Shed some of the redundant models and rename the divisions. Get rid of Hummer. I don't care if the cars are still named Pontiacs, I want all the cool models to survive.

HEY!!!!!


Dont you dare LOl

Go ahead palsut, buy a Ford. Truth is, the way it looks right now, they're gonna be around a lot longer than GM or Chrysler whether you buy one or not.

because it
isn't as cool
if it doesn't
say PONTIAC

EXATLY!!!!!!!

Amen

Herc they cant kill buick....its the best selling "forghin" car in china.......

GM Europe and GM Asia are making money. GM Asia can keep Buick but stateside it's a royal disapointment.

It's sad that the Chinese love American cars more than most Americans. Honda and Toyota can't compete with GM in China. Of course, I don't think you'd recognize the Buicks being sold in China. It's just a brand name.

I say, to be fair, anger all GM fans equally by getting rid of all of the brands with the exception of Cadillac. Keep the best cars for each segment and brand them with GM (GM Corvette, GM Solstice, etc). Heresy I know, but most of the competition only has their regular brand and a high-end brand.

The really sad thing is that I've read more intelligent ideas about saving GM on forums like this than I have heard coming from the GM executives.

Because we get the crappy cars here.

Look at the Holdens in Australia.



Or even the Ford Focus in Europe

The dealer network is what's hurting the demise of car brands. GM lost millions in lawsuits paid to Oldsmobile dealers when Olds got the demise. Now multiply that by six.

I'm all for cutting off the hand before you have to cut off the arm.

Right now major scale backs are needed. People are going to lose jobs but would you rather lose 1 million jobs or 4 million? They both hurt only one hurts more. That's why I say GM should only have three brands. Chevy all cars vans and small cross overs. GMC all trucks and midsize and larger SUVs. Mainly because of the commercial sales GMC currently enjoys. And Cadillac.

Redo the line up with the best selling model of each segment from the "dead" divisions and rebadge as required.

Then concentrate on quality over quantity. Now all that money that was being spent on developing competing brands can be used to fuel the development of alternate fuel/electrical vehicles.


I find it funny how Toyota was a small fish in a big pond (in NA anyways) and they went with just that. Quality first and they grew to be the #1 in car sales in NA. In the past few years they have changed their philosophy to mirror that of GM. And now they are really feeling the pinch only thing saving them is the $41 an hour average labor cost and 1/3 of the dealers to support. If it worked for them it can work for GM.