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#90716 - 10/14/08 05:22 AM I need struts
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But...I just bought new tires. Is it to late to lower my 99GTP? I bought triple tread 225/60r16. Any strut or lowering ideas are appreciated.
I need all four. confused
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#90717 - 10/14/08 08:31 AM Re: I need struts
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einach springs and gr2 struts found any were from zzp,wbs,PFYC
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#90718 - 10/14/08 08:51 AM Re: I need struts
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struts arent the issue. The springs would be the biggest concern, IF your tires were oversized. Since you had bought stock tires for your stock rims, ride height should not be a big concern. IIRC, tire size and suspension drop becomes a concern with anything bigger than 18".
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#90719 - 10/14/08 09:52 AM Re: I need struts
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Local parts stores also carry KYB GR2s. Please support your local parts stores keep your money in your community wink
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#90720 - 10/14/08 10:25 AM Re: I need struts
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Local parts stores as in?...(autozone?)....wouldn't they be pricier compared to online?
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#90721 - 10/14/08 10:33 AM Re: I need struts
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Not really after factor shipping charges and such. I like the smaller guys better the independant shops.

Now when your looking for small market stuff car specific stuff now you go online.

Plus when you buy local there is no wait time no do I want to pay extra for overnight or should I pay the minimum to get it next week etc.
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#90722 - 10/14/08 10:35 AM Re: I need struts
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so were would i be able to pick up some eibachs and gr-2's locally?....and be able to get a spring compressor on my hands smirk i should prob just wait till i go home again
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#90723 - 10/14/08 10:52 AM Re: I need struts
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Not sure on the eibachs but the spring compressor you can pick up with the struts.
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#90724 - 10/14/08 11:40 AM Re: I need struts
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the springs you might be able to order through the store, they have catalogs and that.

But for springs I wouldn't go eibachs. Get some intrax or sprint springs if you want really low or get some SSC's if you want something in the middle but still a good ride.

Like Herc said, you can buy the struts in the store and rent a spring compressor from them but you might need to order the springs off the net.
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#90725 - 10/14/08 11:45 AM Re: I need struts
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What is the consensus on lower profile tires on stock rims? I think I am just over analyzing What I have already purchased,but I do not want to lower and look dumb or have scrubbing issues with the stock size tires.
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#90726 - 10/14/08 11:49 AM Re: I need struts
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going with smaller tires on stock size rims will throw off your speedometer and create large wheel gaps.

I am lowered with 18" rims with a low offset (38) so they stick out farther than stock and I have no rubbing issues.
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#90727 - 10/14/08 01:04 PM Re: I need struts
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i thought eibachs with gr-2's was a real nice setup.....OK well im ordering gr 2's just a must but also wanna drop it a good amount so wats the consensus on best springs for the money
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#90728 - 10/14/08 01:25 PM Re: I need struts
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scratch that last post....eibachs are out they are not good.....so should i get Intrax = 1.7",spring tech, or SSC
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#90729 - 10/14/08 01:33 PM Re: I need struts
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intrax are 1.7
sprint are 1.6
SSCs are variable, you can mix and match to get a desired height but the biggest drop is 1.25.

I have 1.25 front and 0.75 rear but they settled to about 1.5 front 1 rear.

I'm also on stock struts, i'll replace em when they go.
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#90730 - 10/14/08 02:17 PM Re: I need struts
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I have lower profile on stock rims.
I like it except of the gap.
I also was able to change the settings in the pcm via tuner for the size difference!
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#90731 - 10/14/08 03:46 PM Re: I need struts
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hutch i like the gap between ur tires and tire well....the SSCs you have make an even height not higher in the back?
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#90732 - 10/14/08 03:51 PM Re: I need struts
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traditional SSC's. 1.25 front / 0.75 rear.
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#90733 - 10/14/08 03:52 PM Re: I need struts
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Whats the best site to get the SSC's
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#90734 - 10/14/08 03:56 PM Re: I need struts
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they are a canadian company.

getoverkilled.ca or superiorsportchassis.com
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#90735 - 10/14/08 04:17 PM Re: I need struts
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thanks.......so you have traditional which states a raised rear end but is technically even gap correct (just making sure)
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#90736 - 10/14/08 04:22 PM Re: I need struts
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yes, I was confused by the description as well as two of them seemed to be the same. I asked Will about it (Will is Overkill) and he explained them to me.

Traditional is even wheel gaps which causes a bit of a raked stance towards the front.
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#90737 - 10/14/08 04:22 PM Re: I need struts
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and y is there hole set up with gr2's .....

KYB GR2 strut assemblies for all 4 corners with SSC Lowering Springs
Price: $899.99 CAD

when you can buy it seperate for......

springs = 200
struts = 240
mounts = 135
pogo washers = 20
dogbones = 20
total = 615
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#90738 - 10/14/08 04:25 PM Re: I need struts
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ok so i would probably get ur same exact setup....but cost?
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#90739 - 10/14/08 04:38 PM Re: I need struts
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buy it seperate like I have typed out right?
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#90740 - 10/14/08 04:44 PM Re: I need struts
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struts are $340 here. If you can find them cheaper then go ahead and save the money.

The whole assembly he sells is everything, brand new and already assembled so you don't have to worry about spring compressors, that might be why it is more expensive.

That is something you might want to ask Will.
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#90741 - 10/14/08 04:48 PM Re: I need struts
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I only bought the springs, I kept stock struts and bought the mounts at a parts store locally. He gave free pogo retainers though because I made a large order.
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#90742 - 10/14/08 04:51 PM Re: I need struts
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my struts are shot thats y im doing my suspension in general (115,000) dont think the struts were ever changed.....i just figures the mounts would be cheaper through zzp then autozone
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#90743 - 10/14/08 04:57 PM Re: I need struts
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KYB GR2 struts - $239.99 (from zzp)

what do you mean $340 here?
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#90744 - 10/14/08 05:04 PM Re: I need struts
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i'm in Canada.

So is Will and those are Canadian prices. It'll cost you a bit more because of int'l shipping.
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#90745 - 10/14/08 05:07 PM Re: I need struts
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oh i gotcha hutch....well ill probably purchase exactly what I wrote up before just gotta wait till the time it right when I can throw it all on real quick thanks for everything!
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#90746 - 10/14/08 08:44 PM Re: I need struts
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I am still on stock struts 140,000,I know shame on me. I like the GR2 and want to lower a bit I was just worried about my new stock size tires as already mentioned. I sure do like the way they ride(triple treads)compared to my old Wal Mart rubbers.
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#90747 - 10/14/08 08:59 PM Re: I need struts
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you'll b fine using stock tires and lowering. Lots of ppl and myself included go back to stock size tire in the winter without putting the stck springs back in.
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#90748 - 10/14/08 09:19 PM Re: I need struts
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Hutch i didnt realize what you have done to your car!.....you have a 2.8 pulley on there?
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#90749 - 10/14/08 09:38 PM Re: I need struts
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Quote:
Originally posted by gteisele:
Hutch i didnt realize what you have done to your car!.....you have a 2.8 pulley on there?
it says 3.4 in his cardomain confused
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#90750 - 10/14/08 10:10 PM Re: I need struts
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I have a 3.4 currently.

you're looking at page 2. those are mods to come and provided I don't run into any big snags I should have it done around christmas time.

I have a ported s/c, SBC cam and pacesetters in my basement. I've gotta finish my intercooler setup and fuel rails/injectors before I can put it all in.

I might run a 3.0 and up the timing instead of a 2.8, we'll see. Then it's up to Will for a tune.
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#90751 - 10/17/08 05:38 PM Re: I need struts
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4KYB GR2 struts from my local auto Zone $313.30.
ZZP has them for $239.99
Eibach springs at A/Z $270.88 for the set.

I did not ask A/Z about the new top plates or the pogo washers.
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#90752 - 10/17/08 05:44 PM Re: I need struts
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How much for shipping?
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#90753 - 10/17/08 05:48 PM Re: I need struts
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I'm trying to find that out now
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#90754 - 10/17/08 05:51 PM Re: I need struts
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I want the down pipe also. Do I get the 3" 304S/S with the cat for my 99GTP. I'm guessing here.
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#90755 - 10/17/08 06:43 PM Re: I need struts
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yes, 3" dp is what u want.

dont get eibachs.

autozone wont have those pogo washers.

strut mount plates will be expensive at a/z.
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#90756 - 10/17/08 07:16 PM Re: I need struts
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Aren't KYB AGX's better than GR-2's for lowered cars or was I dreaming that I read that?
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#90757 - 10/18/08 12:38 AM Re: I need struts
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Quote:
Originally posted by 98greenGT:
Aren't KYB AGX's better than GR-2's for lowered cars or was I dreaming that I read that?
AGX's are better for lowered cars. GR2's are not as good
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#90758 - 10/18/08 08:45 AM Re: I need struts
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AGXs are also twice the cost.
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#90759 - 10/18/08 08:51 AM Re: I need struts
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meh, stock struts here!

i'll get some gr-2's when my stockers go.

AGX's are expensive because they are adjustable.
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#90760 - 10/18/08 04:16 PM Re: I need struts
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Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
AGXs are also twice the cost.
That wasnt the question. He asked what was better for lowered cars.
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#90761 - 10/18/08 04:20 PM Re: I need struts
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Quote:
Originally posted by ordonez1307:
Quote:
Originally posted by 98greenGT:
[b] Aren't KYB AGX's better than GR-2's for lowered cars or was I dreaming that I read that?
AGX's are better for lowered cars. GR2's are not as good [/b]
And you answered him.

I was only adding in.

If it'll make you happy.

Yes AGX's are supieror to GR2s period lowered or not because they are adjustable. But for 95% of those on here GR2s with anti pogo washers are just as good as a stock ride hight stock suspension.
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