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#91724 - 12/18/08 05:59 PM Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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Well I'm back to the drawing board for a fresh build (1500 miles since last build up)I have a seasoned block and that's my starting point I want to stay SC and am looking for 500whp ,any input will be considered,I hope to make sort of a photo journal of the build to help some of the newbies.Chico(pops)
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#91725 - 12/18/08 06:05 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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wow, go figure, what happened to the idea of the MP112? are you going to gut your car or anything? your doing the same thing that i want to do
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#91726 - 12/18/08 06:10 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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I may do some lightening but nothing drastic ,this will be a 10sec street machine to take on the Power tour.
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#91727 - 12/18/08 06:14 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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Good Luck CHico!
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#91728 - 12/18/08 06:18 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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wow nice nice, i know a 10sec gtp would be sweet but you should think about doing a RWD swap lol take that to the powertour and yes pics is a must
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#91729 - 12/18/08 06:23 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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I vote Novi-2000 setup.
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#91730 - 12/18/08 07:23 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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It would seem that 500whp will require serious boost, therefore intercooling and some sort of meth or nitrous injection.

I know you said non turbo, but isnt intercooling and higher boost levels easier to attain with turbo set up?

Your ballgame tho...I'm sure there will be avid interest as far as the pics thru various stages of the build.

To be honest, I'm pretty darned impressed with a V6 powered FWD car that runs 12s...then again I am easily impressed lol (or so my wife tells me)
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#91731 - 12/18/08 07:30 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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sounds like a good challenge but im sure the right combination of parts and budget you could make it run 10's. I cant wait to see what you whip up chico, where would i look to get more info on a novi set up?
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#91732 - 12/18/08 07:42 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
Chico Offline
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How about one of the new Eaton TVS blowers?
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#91733 - 12/18/08 07:43 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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Chico, the current horsepower record on a M90 set-up is like 530-some horsepower. It's Fred in Milwaukee.

His best times was only like an 11.2 and he has done everything under the sun to get there.

But if anybody can get an M90 into the 10s, it's you Chico.
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#91734 - 12/18/08 07:47 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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those new TVS blowers are BADASS but they dont have an app for the 3.8 unless your going to do some custom fab there, but they would be SWEET have you given up on the idea of the mp112? or maybe even a whippie? but yes the tvs blowers are sweet i still have a coupple flyers in my toolbox for them
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#91735 - 12/18/08 07:56 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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A TVS might be the key to getting it into the 10s.

I wonder if there is any way to fit the TVS rotors in an M90 housing...
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#91736 - 12/18/08 08:04 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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I think if you're going to do anything like that, I would go with some sort of twin screw blower. A Whipple will be your best bet at something like that, as I think the TVS blowers are crazy expensive.

PRJ is in the process of helping someone out with their Whipple setup right now. I know they made a custom intercooler for it. Might be worth some researching.

Whipple and nitrous should be a pretty solid 10 sec. setup.
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#91737 - 12/18/08 08:07 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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well, maybe you can figure out something but a TVS would be SWEET !!!!
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#91738 - 12/18/08 10:39 PM Re: Looking to build a 10sec.GP (non turbo)
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What about putting that eaton on a ZZP crate 3.8
If you do everything to the motor with that supercharger and an intercooler, maybe you can get there?

What about running NOS?

And out of curiosity, why do you not want to do a turbo build?
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