why2k i hear what your saying but the big thang that help you keep positive equity in your car is hte 2500 cash down. That saved you a buttload of interest and everything. But my point to make was that you will never get what you paid for them and some people start to sound like i paid this and i cant get any of it back. the only investment that i look at when i buy a car is how much i enjoy it, how well it gets the job down (my old grand prix value dropped like a something really big not sure what) but it never left me stranded and only started to show some problems at the end.(it was wrecked) And as for as the slipping sales? Who knows? The thing that keeps it moving is the willingness for people to finance and finance away and that will hurt a lotta people down the road. I financed my new car. I just financed a house. But in less than 10 years half my house will already be paid for and i will still have my grand prix(unless it gets wrecked or hurt )and i will buy used cars again for play toys im sure. but now that i got way of topic i will end this post by saying. nothing. at all.