It was funny. When I was looking to downsize my vehicle inventory from my 98 silverado, 88 F-150 4x4 and 92 Geo storm I went to the local Pontiac dealer and was looking at new and used cars I was looking for a SUV to replace the 88 and the 92 and was talking to the salesman about the differences between the Grand Am the Grand Prix and the Bonnie. We had talked about the money so he showed us a couple of SEs and then walked on by the GTP. He said now that's a car but quite a bit out of your range. So after looking around we test drove a 01 SE and the wife and I loved it. It was a four door but the price was just too high they weren't gonna back down so we left. Three days later we went to another dealership that had a few GPs on the lot Saw this blue Daytona edition GTP and walked on by thinking there is no way I could afford that. Went straight for the SEs. My wife said babe lets just look at the blue one and see what the price is. I hemmed and hawwed. (I didn't wanna get my hopes up) So I gave in and went and sat in it. Then took it for a drive. Oh what difference between the GTP and SE. Talked some prices then went inside and wheeled and dealed some more. Initally they were asking 14k for the car 2k above my ceiling. I got em down to 12k called the finance company talked to them and they said for that car we will only give you 10.6K. Mind you it took an hour to get the price down to 12k I thought great time for an SE. To my surprise the Manager dropped the price to 10.6K and the car was MINE!!!!! Talk about one happy fellow. So when I hear people say I can't afford a GTP they cost too much. Look around you can find what you want just don't be in a rush.