I'm sorry if the GTP guys ever looked down their nose at you.

Over on the board for the Optima the SX turbo guys think their poop don't stink and if the car is a lower trim level it isn't worth the effort.

Also talk about alot of whiney people. They think that because they spent $30k on a car it should have $30k car quality. When in reality the Optima is an $18k car with $12k worth of options. All those options don't change the overall quality a damn.